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Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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For many, the appeal of a Mac is that it isn't running Windows. I'm not seeing how this won't be a repeat of the OG ARM Surface, just with a higher spec'd GPU.

And for many others, the appeal of a Windows PC is that it doesn’t run macOS. But I agree that ARM is still a caveat for those machines, in particular long-term driver support.

this reads to me as a false equivalence. Choosing a Mac is opting into a specific alternative. Choosing Windows is just taking the default.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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post #143

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> an ARM device that had the battery life of Apple Silicon, yet was a real computer that wasn't locked down, ensured/promoted ARM compatibility with their ecosystem Isn’t that what this is? (Or is supposed to be?)

I don't see any real explanation of the CPU in this thing. Is it going to be Grace like on GB200 and Spark?

N1x, Nvidia's laptop ARM GPU cpu board.

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/317428/20260530/nvidia-ar...

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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In recent times support is part of what I consider when I buy Apple products. It is by no means the best but I can always get a human at whatever time of day and they will listen to my problem and attempt to address it. But as for getting rubber feet, I'm sure it's some backwards process with Apple too, if at all possible.

Apple does positive scripting ("I understand that must feel frustrating, I had a similar issue once, I'm going to solve your problem"), but at least I can reach a human, even if that human talks like they've been brainwashed by a cult. My ISP has actual techies answering the phone, and their approach is more "well that's a bit crap, I can have an engineer there by Thursday". I've only needed them a couple of times in…

>My ISP has actual techies answering the phone

Lucky you. My ISP is so incompetent they connected me to another customer when they wanted to connect me to another support agent (Vodafone).

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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My experience with Surfaces and, particularly, the Surface Book and its accompanying dock were such that I'd have to be paid to use one again. For example, the dock would get its own updates silently and brick itself randomly and the proprietary magnetic connector between the dock and the computer was prone to a poor connection. I remember many occasions trying to work and my screens just randomly blinking in and out…

I worked with some of the people responsible for the Surface Book, Surface docks, and specifically the Surface Book's dock. These were hardware people (EEs), not software people, and this was after their time at MS. Unfortunately I don't remember specifics (both because it's been a few years, and because I'd probably have to fuzz details anyway), but... : Docks are horrifying products. Thunderbolt docks are doubly ho…

clearly they werent mechanical engineers - the dock bent my pro-3 and shattered the screen

the clamp around setup was a very poor choice

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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> It was still better than the competition Plenty of cases where Surface isn't. Microsoft like to think they can make hardware but they're no better than other OEM and it's clearly not a focus for them

When I worked at Microsoft (years ago), some employees had Surface laptops. They frequently had issues where the laptop just wasn't working right and required rebooting, at the start of a meeting where they wanted to connect the Surface laptop to a projector. Always the Surfaces, never the Lenovos. One of the Surface things split into two parts, the screen (containing the actual computer) and the keyboard. There was…

the split thing got updates that juat made it unable to be removed except while the device is restarting

but also, it was really easy to accidentally lock the screen while removing it, at which point youd put it back on to get the password filled in again

that and if the battery got low, youd be stuck with it in the wrong configuration, so the screen would get scratched

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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That copy reeks of AI generated text... for a premium, luxury laptop. What a shame.

They probably just don't have any humans left in marketing that can write original copy. They've all been fired or has their brains turned to mush from using copilot all day every day

Or their souls eviscerated by receiving nothing but criticism for any attempt to think or apply their creative passion.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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We are talking about a situation some years past. I member there were USB docks that if you had them attached to external power and ethernet, but not a laptop, they'd instant-kill the network by sending garbage frames that would cause switches to fault off. Only around 2024-ish the situation with USB and TB docks seemed to stabilize.

I had a CalDigit TB dock -- maybe 2021-ish? -- that every time I unplugged my MacBook would take my internet offline. I thought I was insane. How is that even possible? But I finally gave up and returned it. Thanks for finally answering this mystery for me.

I remember getting my first CalDigit TB dock and being excited - everyone seemed to love them. I expected it to largely Just Work.

That thing Didn't Work more than it Worked, but options were slim. Eventually it fully died about 14 months in. I didn't even bother checking to see what the warranty terms were. TS3 Plus, back in 17 or 18. What a piece of shit.

Sounds like it's a good thing I didn't bother trying again in the early 2020s and only recently bought a new dock.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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post #255

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> It was still better than the competition Plenty of cases where Surface isn't. Microsoft like to think they can make hardware but they're no better than other OEM and it's clearly not a focus for them

When I worked at Microsoft (years ago), some employees had Surface laptops. They frequently had issues where the laptop just wasn't working right and required rebooting, at the start of a meeting where they wanted to connect the Surface laptop to a projector. Always the Surfaces, never the Lenovos. One of the Surface things split into two parts, the screen (containing the actual computer) and the keyboard. There was…

This is even more of a knock to Microsoft but the overheating during sleep issue can affect any windows laptop made in the last 5 or so years. The cause is nothing surface specific, it’s Microsoft enforcing “Modern standby” and blocking S3/S4 sleep states in windows. My best understanding is that some bug causes the system to stay awake after one of the periodic wake ups to check for updates/notifications that happen in modern standby.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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My absolute favorite fact about the Surface is that if the battery runs out, the Surface Dock power is unable to bootstrap it. You have to plug in a charger Not sure if that's still the case but truly astonishing https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/surface-dock/tro...

To be fair, my MacBook Pro had the same issue - if the battery was dead, charging via USB-C wouldn't work, it would need the MagSafe charger. Presumably because the USB controller needs power in order to negotiate power delivery.

Never had this issue with any of my MBP. I never even have magsafe available, couldn't tell you where a USB-C to magsafe cable is in my house if my life depended on it.
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