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Re: Please Use AI

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Post by shrubby »

kccqzy wrote: post #242
ryandrake wrote: post #67

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Ever since I started experimenting with AI coding, I've totally lost that feeling of accomplishment. For projects I actually developed by typing in the code, it feels like I actually did something--like here's something I built and am responsible for bringing into the world. When I finish an AI-built project, I feel...nothing. Just that empty: "Code now exists where it didn't exist before, but I didn't really do anyt…

That’s why fully AI written projects are only interesting to those who care only about productivity (i.e. business use cases) rather than the developer’s enjoyment and satisfaction. For my own sanity, I never allow AI to do everything. Either I write some code and turn to AI for debugging help and code review, or I let AI write the initial draft and I debug the AI-written code.

The current state of humanity, not only AI.

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Post by Gud »

ryukoposting wrote: post #215
sushshshhs wrote: post #129

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If your project contained original thought does it matter if the IFs and the ELSEs were generated? I sometimes wonder if people get into this to create an actual working something or they just enjoy sorting colored blocks for the heck of it. I am on the other extreme end: I don’t give a rat’s ass about the code itself. The spec, the intent, the architecture, the contracts are what I find interesting. All the “file ha…

If a photo has strong composition and symbolism, does it matter if the photographer took the photo as opposed to prompting it into existence?

If the realism is important, it does matter. If realism is not important("strong symbolism"), then it is not important.

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Post by iainctduncan »

Lots of "but I don't have those friends" replies here....

..which is only going to get worse the more you rely on a statisical model for things instead of talking to people.

Re: Please Use AI

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Post by xiaoyu2006 »

TakeItToTen wrote: post #170
sushshshhs wrote: post #129

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If your project contained original thought does it matter if the IFs and the ELSEs were generated? I sometimes wonder if people get into this to create an actual working something or they just enjoy sorting colored blocks for the heck of it. I am on the other extreme end: I don’t give a rat’s ass about the code itself. The spec, the intent, the architecture, the contracts are what I find interesting. All the “file ha…

I have landed here myself. I have always enjoyed writing code, but I find lately that I am getting so much more satisfaction from the process of exploring and designing systems more, and code is simply the substrate. I am becoming a better architect with AI, because I am spending more mental energy in that lane, getting less embroiled in the nitty-gritty of the code.

> I am becoming a better architect with AI

Be careful with that claim. Abstractions more or less leak especially in CE where the OS and hardware you built on are already full of leaky abstractions, e.g. performance traits. It is still important to look through and comprehend code.

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Post by moron4hire »

Brendinooo wrote: post #175
moron4hire wrote: post #122

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It comes from an inclination to be argumentative for argument's sake. Some people approach everything with an eye that nobody else is as smart as them so everything everyone else makes must be flawed and it's their job to tell them how wrong they are.

>that nobody else is as smart as them >it's their job to tell them how wrong they are lol. To be clear, my reply came from a desire to stick up for people who now have access to knowledge that they didn't have access to before - I think they should be able to access it without being guilt-tripped for doing so. If that sentiment is being unfairly bolted on to this thing specifically, perhaps that's a fair critique: pe…

The problem is that your core premise is flawed. Nobody who has access to an LLM today has lacked for access to knowledge in 15 years. The LLM providers even tell us themselves that they provide worse access to knowledge because they train on what is available on the public internet up to a certain cutoff date.

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Post by yomismoaqui »

Apparently, asking ChatGPT for a meal plan is now the first step toward abandoning friendship, craft, parenthood, and the sacred wobbliness of the human soul.

When I start thinking we programmers are the most pedantic people around, I just look at some writers and feel a little better.

Re: Please Use AI

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Post by runarberg »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #212
sushshshhs wrote: post #129

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If your project contained original thought does it matter if the IFs and the ELSEs were generated? I sometimes wonder if people get into this to create an actual working something or they just enjoy sorting colored blocks for the heck of it. I am on the other extreme end: I don’t give a rat’s ass about the code itself. The spec, the intent, the architecture, the contracts are what I find interesting. All the “file ha…

To me, English is just another programming language. Some of us will always be better at it than others, and the ones that know other programming languages well will always have an advantage over those who do not. When you are good at it there can be craft in it still.

English is not a programming language though. I don’t understand how such an obviously false sentence can be so persistent.

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Post by lanfeust6 »

jimbokun wrote: post #267
lanfeust6 wrote: post #165

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> instead of Citation needed. People did not stop talking to family, friends and colleagues just because they're able to leverage LLMs.

No, they stopped talking to family, friends and colleagues because they got addicted to social media algorithms.

and other forms of multi-media before that.

Re: Please Use AI

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Post by throw101010 »

cpt_sobel wrote: post #73
randusername wrote: post #21

Reminds me of that silly Adam Sandler movie Click (2006). In that movie only the protagonist had the magic remote to fast-forward through existence. It was a tragedy of self-destruction. But what if everyone gets the remote at roughly the same time?

This movie hit harder than my highest expectations from an Adam Sandler movie.

Sandler has some pretty good non-comedy (Uncut Gems, Hustle) or half serious comedy (like Click). He's among the few actors who still could do this and not feel completely out of place... but that's if you give his serious roles a chance, many people just judge the serious movies by his presence in the cast and never actually watch them.

He also had a lot of slop movies in career, so I don't blame people who do that... but it's a shame if you miss the good ones because his acting really makes these great.

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