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I meant $0.
You meant they use user data to train their models.
Which costs them money to do. Not the users.
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#272I just checked amazon and I paid $350 in Nov 24' for 96GB (2x48GB) 6800MT DDR5 which at the time felt quite expensive and a bit of a splurge but I figured I had my DDR4 kit for almost a decade so probably similar lifespan for DDR5. That same listing is currently $1300!!! When RAM prices are increasing like a crypto currency we have a real societal problem.
I don't want to live in a society where RAM inflation is higher and food inflation. Future generations will ask me where were you when Computer prices were rising, internet bandwidth was rationed and people had to wait overnight to continue vibe coding because vendors blocked further API calls for many hours at a time.
From the point of view of AI companies, the benefit of very high hardware prices is that there will no competition from local models any time soon.
There might be an overdue era of computing where being a little mindful of resource consumption might go a long way, now that Moore's law has been killed by economics, but I wonder how that'll play out with vibe coding that vomits out thousands of lines of inefficient code.
I honestly wouldn't mind living in a society where growth and excess is no longer viable.
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I fully understand being uncomfortable with a CPU swap, but a GPU swap isn't difficult. Valve also could have gone the Framework route of releasing a motherboard+CPU combo so you can upgrade later down the line just by swapping the board out. I guess they can earn more money by soldering everything on the board and having you buy a completely new PC every time you want to upgrade.
That would include trade off of locking yourself to single form factor. Less of issue with laptops with decades of design behind them. But unlikely to be preferable for first design you make.
You could use mini-ITX form factor.
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#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't want to live in a society where RAM inflation is higher and food inflation. Future generations will ask me where were you when Computer prices were rising, internet bandwidth was rationed and people had to wait overnight to continue vibe coding because vendors blocked further API calls for many hours at a time.
> people had to wait overnight to continue vibe coding because vendors blocked further API calls for many hours at a time Tangential but this is funny. Back in the early 90s, I did a lot of BASIC programming in the family computer, this was before we had Internet. I could spend hours.and hours in front of the computer doing stuff. Fast forward to around 2010 I remember a distinct feeling one time the internet went of…
Yeah, I also feel that this negative aspect of "AI" adoption is not much discussed overall - massive centralization and dependency on a remote service woth something as important as computer programming.
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> It's best not to have a fever at all. Well put. Indeed non-free market solutions typically rely on some impossible conditions, in your comparison that would be "just don't get sick". But people will get sick. You can't just "not have a fever at all".
> "just don't get sick". But people will get sick. You can't just "not have a fever at all". PPE, quarantining and other containment measures exist to broadly prevent sickness, but I imagine not in a universe that is about the free market at all costs, to strain the allegory further. If people keep getting sick with a recognizable pattern, someone ought to look into that, and prevent future outbreaks.
> PPE, quarantining and other containment measures exist to broadly prevent sickness
But people won't wear PPE and quarantine and do other containment measures (and not because of free market). Also PPE, quarantining and other containment measures are not perfect and probably will never be. So yeah, again naive, idealistic view that perfectly fits naive anti-free market narratives that require impossible conditions to work.
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What I meant was not that these problems wouldn't get solved for decades, but that few years ago (before advent of LLMs) if you've asked average researcher how far away are we from AI solving unsolved math problems, the median answer would be that we are far, far away from that.
If that's how your comment was meant, it seems an odd reply to the parent comment, which is firmly critical of AI's impact on society, not really debating about the progress of the technology.
I suggest you read the parent comment again. The poster clearly was laughing at the capabilities of AI and its utility:
> the value in having a personal assistant AI agent that can lie about the time for your appointment and autonomously delete your entire calendar
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Yes, same as industrial revolution was worth sacrificing people's livelihood, because in the end we are much better off.
Should I take this as you volunteering your livelihood? Otherwise this comment rings incredibly hollow. It's very easy to say others should sacrifice what they've worked their whole life for, but it's not so easy to give it up yourself. If you truly believe it's worth it, though, you should be eager to do so.
> Should I take this as you volunteering your livelihood? Otherwise this comment rings incredibly hollow. It's very easy to say others should sacrifice what they've worked their whole life for, but it's not so easy to give it up yourself. If you truly believe it's worth it, though, you should be eager to do so.
Well yes, I'm not immune to potential displacement, I don't know where did you get it that I'm somehow in safe spot that will never get replaced with AI. And I'm ok with this risk.
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College was never about learning it was about signaling. I get two resumes on my desk, one went to Harvard, one learned about stuff on ChatGPT. Which has a higher likelihood of being a success?
It defends how you want to define success, but I would lean towards ChatGPT.
You would lean towards a resume that says "I learned from ChatGPT"? What does that even mean?
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Should I take this as you volunteering your livelihood? Otherwise this comment rings incredibly hollow. It's very easy to say others should sacrifice what they've worked their whole life for, but it's not so easy to give it up yourself. If you truly believe it's worth it, though, you should be eager to do so.
> Should I take this as you volunteering your livelihood? Otherwise this comment rings incredibly hollow. It's very easy to say others should sacrifice what they've worked their whole life for, but it's not so easy to give it up yourself. If you truly believe it's worth it, though, you should be eager to do so. Well yes, I'm not immune to potential displacement, I don't know where did you get it that I'm somehow in s…
Go ahead and quit your job then, if it's worth it. It's for the greater good, after all, and you're more than ok with it.
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I don't think the software that lies to you and makes things up on a regular basis is a very good teacher. Even if it was, that's not worth the cost to society vs just improving education.
Teachers make even more up than AI in my experience. I would always trust an AI over a human teacher.
That's an incredibly depressing and anti-intellectual way to go through life.