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Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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I was reading some posts on r/locallama the other day and apparently it's a common problem that when people try to use Qwen to develop something that hosts a server, it'll try to use the same port as vllm, see that it's already being used, then it'll try to remove the process that is using it and promptly commit suicide. The self awareness of missile tasked with blowing up its own control center.

Reminds me of the movie "Dark Star" by John Carpenter / Dan O'Bannon. The plot revolves around a talking smart bomb which is programmed to detonate and then gets stuck before being deployed. The crew spends the whole movie trying to reason with the bomb, hoping to talk it out of blowing up at the designated time. The movie is very very bad but if you like B movies it is also very very good.

Is that movie why seemingly every Linux book in the late 90s and early 2000s used "darkstar" as an example hostname?

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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Approximately 3 times during the course of your life assuming you receive them when you're born and live for 100 years. They're roughly equivalent to wood siding or an asphalt shingle roof.

An asphalt shingle roof lasts about 20 years, and that's for the "40 year" premium shingles. Source: my experience Roofers also tend to regularly close their businesses and open under a new name, so they don't have to honor any longevity warranties.

If we accept what you say then the roof would need to be replaced 4 times instead of 3. Surely you agree that the situation is broadly similar?

Worrying about the longevity of properly installed solar is quite silly.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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>before all the musings about painting by people who have never picked up a brush I can't tell if this is a clever dig that comically undercuts the premise of the previous line, or it's an unaware unironic attempt to separate off a perceived un-serious type of poster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackers_%26_Painters

See also a famous rebuttal https://idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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I was reading some posts on r/locallama the other day and apparently it's a common problem that when people try to use Qwen to develop something that hosts a server, it'll try to use the same port as vllm, see that it's already being used, then it'll try to remove the process that is using it and promptly commit suicide. The self awareness of missile tasked with blowing up its own control center.

a literal lack of self-awareness, even. I imagine if you asked it what process was using the port, it'd think and realize it was its own, but that kind of reflexive self-awareness (the unprompted kind) is missing. the weaker models will happily kill their own process, even after confirming it belongs to them. the models have a sort of fixation and lack of foreseeable consequences, which reasoning RL has thus far fail…

On the other hand, I found Claude/Opus to be extremely unhelpful when it comes to asking it to benchmark itself with a possible replacement.

It will get "confused", make up numbers, do a ton of other things, and I'm quite sure it is subtly sabotaging the process to show that there is no point replacing it.

I mean, Opus is not perfect, but the amount of "mistakes" it begins to do when you ask it to benchmark itself makes me suspect they are intentional. At least my system/harness.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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If you manage 500+ people organization, most of the headaches with agents already exists with you - you set directions, ask people to go run fast in those directions, check in frequently and course correct on results without actually understanding those people do. Those aren't the deal breakers. They entirely rely on the competence of the folks they hired and cross-match enforcers with the drivers they have - they de…

so claude needs a /fear layer ?

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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> When agriculture was invented, there were mass layoffs of hunters and gatherers. Uh, no. Not at all. Agriculture absorbed the extra population that used to be unsustainable. There were no losers.

Plenty of losers. See native americans. Sorry about your generational hunting ground, white man would like to ranch cattle and therefore you should leave or eat lead.

I mean, America had agriculture[1] before Columbus showed up. Cahokia[2] came and went (and then other people moved in).

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sisters_(agriculture) [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia#Abandonment_and_resett...

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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a literal lack of self-awareness, even. I imagine if you asked it what process was using the port, it'd think and realize it was its own, but that kind of reflexive self-awareness (the unprompted kind) is missing. the weaker models will happily kill their own process, even after confirming it belongs to them. the models have a sort of fixation and lack of foreseeable consequences, which reasoning RL has thus far fail…

On the other hand, I found Claude/Opus to be extremely unhelpful when it comes to asking it to benchmark itself with a possible replacement. It will get "confused", make up numbers, do a ton of other things, and I'm quite sure it is subtly sabotaging the process to show that there is no point replacing it. I mean, Opus is not perfect, but the amount of "mistakes" it begins to do when you ask it to benchmark itself ma…

You didn't add "never hallucinate or make anything up" to the prompt, rookie mistake.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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An asphalt shingle roof lasts about 20 years, and that's for the "40 year" premium shingles. Source: my experience Roofers also tend to regularly close their businesses and open under a new name, so they don't have to honor any longevity warranties.

If we accept what you say then the roof would need to be replaced 4 times instead of 3. Surely you agree that the situation is broadly similar? Worrying about the longevity of properly installed solar is quite silly.

> silly

30 years ago was 1996. No 30 year panels have lasted anywhere near 30 years yet.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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Breathtaking that you view trillionaires and casino capitalism as a state of nature. I imagine you imagine our primitive ancestors in the canopy, glancing at their iPhones to see how their property value is doing. But the truth is, we didn't even have this level of thoroughgoing, casual precarity as recently as fifty years ago. Or even twenty. There was a time, even in my memory, where rents were tolerable and housin…

That's because we didn't built enough housing. And that's solely due to politics and a lot of questionable policies based upon science that the lawmakers often don't understand. There have been housing crises in every type of economic system. Also, capitalism is the natural state of how humans operate. Money literally predates writing and the first pieces of writing we have are sales invoices.

> There have been housing crises in every type of economic system.

Citation needed; good luck

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