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Erin Brockovich made a map to track data centers around the country

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Re: Erin Brockovich made a map to track data centers around the country

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Tanoc wrote: post #188
rcpt wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most everybody isn't affected by data center build outs.

It appears to be not so much about the datacenters themselves as it is limiting the growth capabilities for the LLMs. From their understanding fewer datacenters means more congestion which means less possibility LLMs can be shoved into more places where the public thinks they are intrusive. Which seems to be everywhere.

Can't put new technology back in the box.

We don't build the chips or even the machines that build the machines that build the chips. We don't own all the rare earths and our ability to generate electricity isn't anything special.

The data centers are getting built. Up to us if it's in Utah or overseas.

Re: Erin Brockovich made a map to track data centers around the country

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Post by rcpt »

pesus wrote: post #121
rcpt wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most everybody isn't affected by data center build outs.

Maybe not, but the people near them sure are. And the majority of people are definitely impacted by the downstream effects.

They really aren't.

Re: Erin Brockovich made a map to track data centers around the country

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Post by andyreagan »

I'm not sure why but my reaction to this is pretty negative.

This page must be hosted from a data center as well...they could add a star to the map for their own hosting?

How much electricity does their site use, etc? I've seen counters like this before, I think, about the electricity a site uses based on the weight of the page, etc.

Re: Erin Brockovich made a map to track data centers around the country

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Post by davkan »

Gormo wrote: post #268
davkan wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? The people against datacenter construction are absolutely not the same as the people freaking out about 5g towers. The latter share circle on the venn diagram with horse paste connoisseurs.

People objecting to buildings existing on account of the possibility that other people might do things they don't like inside them are in the same category as horse paste connoisseurs, in my opinion.

That’s a a ludicrous comparison. Not liking what people do in a building is the same as believing in baseless conspiracy theories? Regardless that’s not even why people are rejecting them.

People are rejecting them because of what they do outside. Drive up power costs, take up space, use up water, raise the heat, make noise. And with almost zero upside for the community. The fact that they’re owned by unlikable charlatans training a product that takes away jobs just makes it easier.

Re: Erin Brockovich made a map to track data centers around the country

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Post by valbaca »

andyreagan wrote: post #275

I'm not sure why but my reaction to this is pretty negative. This page must be hosted from a data center as well...they could add a star to the map for their own hosting? How much electricity does their site use, etc? I've seen counters like this before, I think, about the electricity a site uses based on the weight of the page, etc.

"Yet you participate in society. Curious! I am very intelligent"

"...you said on an iPhone. Heh. Gotcha."

Re: Erin Brockovich made a map to track data centers around the country

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Post by Gormo »

runtime_terror wrote: post #116
thiagoperes wrote: post #49

It's poetically beautiful that the tool was very very clearly built mostly if not entirely using AI

I'm curious peoples criteria to determine this or is it just "vibes"? Like I get it looks a lot like apps built with AI but weren't LLMs trained on real website and a metric ton of website templates? Is it possible they used a template or other UI library?

> I'm curious peoples criteria to determine this or is it just "vibes"?

It's just vibes. There really are no reliable, simple criteria to determine if something was made with AI, and that shouldn't be surprising, since the whole point of LLMs is to mimic humans' work.

Re: Erin Brockovich made a map to track data centers around the country

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Post by pesus »

rcpt wrote: post #272
pesus wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe not, but the people near them sure are. And the majority of people are definitely impacted by the downstream effects.

They really aren't.

Very well thought out argument, I'm sure spamming it some more will really convince people. You're telling me people aren't affected by AI in any way whatsoever? That's a very bold and obviously untrue claim. No wonder people don't trust AI sycophants, you can't even keep your story straight.

Re: Erin Brockovich made a map to track data centers around the country

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Post by [deleted] »

georgemcbay wrote: post #123
rcpt wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most everybody isn't affected by data center build outs.

Some people have empathy for those who are, even if they are not. I don't live anywhere near SpaceX's methane monstrosity in Memphis, but I still think it shouldn't exist because of the negative impact it has on the people who live near it. And I still think Anthropic became fully complicit by renting it out.

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