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Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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The first several paragraphs of this article got a score of "100% AI-generated" on Pangram: https://www.pangram.com/history/d06c8513-9ee3-4a1d-b02f-c1ec...

Yeah I noticed it myself, "You asked a simple question. They lobbed a document."

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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AI conversations are like dreams: everyone has one they like and wants to share it with others ... but no on gives a crap about your dream/chat session, because it was uniquely appealing to you , and not them. Don't bore your co-workers (or others) with descriptions of your dreams, and don't throw a computer's dreams (AI chat logs) at them either.

I was writing a comment after some code I wrote and Copilot autocompleted saying "This is hacky, but..." I thought it was funny so I put a comment above saying "This is what Copilot said about my code:" and it autocompleted a line after it saying "Copilot was correct, but..."

Whoosh

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

#274

AI conversations are like dreams: everyone has one they like and wants to share it with others ... but no on gives a crap about your dream/chat session, because it was uniquely appealing to you , and not them. Don't bore your co-workers (or others) with descriptions of your dreams, and don't throw a computer's dreams (AI chat logs) at them either.

I was writing a comment after some code I wrote and Copilot autocompleted saying "This is hacky, but..." I thought it was funny so I put a comment above saying "This is what Copilot said about my code:" and it autocompleted a line after it saying "Copilot was correct, but..."

I guess you're intentionally proving the parent comment's point?

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

#275

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To me, acting in good faith means saying something like "I'm not sure, but Claude says this, which sounds right: [short informative clip from Claude's wall of text]". Don't pretend it's your response, make sure it has info you think is useful, and edit it down.

I'd prefer just "I don't know." I can ask Claude on my own.

Some years ago, answering "just google it!" was considered rude in some forums. It was asumed that some people didn't have enough googlefu, so googling for them was considered a good help. Also, almost all StackOverflow could be boiled down to a "RTFM" and close the questions.

Today there might be people who can't extract enough juice from LLMs, so it is not entirely useless to say "I was able to extract this info from a LLM, because I am good at it and you seem to struggle", instead of throwing "just ask Claude!".

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

#276

I've decided that I'm done being pissy about this kind of response, or thinking that it's something that can be coached away. I choose to look at it like any other cultural communication difference - something that you learn about, try to give some grace to, and work a little harder to bridge (unless you're defusing a bomb, performing surgery, flying an airplane etc.). In this person's communication culture, they are…

> In this person's communication culture, they are saying "I don't know, but here's my attempt to help." You know all those support sites for various products (Microsoft, etc) where people ask questions, and lots of folks eagerly give answers that really aren't helpful? Throwing AI grenades generally falls into the same category. I don't mind an AI generated answer as long as it's on point, concise, and answers my pr…

AI text dumps fall somewhere between "delete system32" and "run sfc /scannow".

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

#277

AI conversations are like dreams: everyone has one they like and wants to share it with others ... but no on gives a crap about your dream/chat session, because it was uniquely appealing to you , and not them. Don't bore your co-workers (or others) with descriptions of your dreams, and don't throw a computer's dreams (AI chat logs) at them either.

I don't know, I don't mind someone telling me about a dream, if it's not too long. It can be interesting or funny.

As always, when one says something, they need to check that the public they have is interested and the public must give cues about how they receive the thing. Of course it doesn't always work well, but this could concern any topic.

Definitely don't share your AI chat with me though, I can sustain a poker face and politeness only for so long, after that I will probably need to complain, vent or practice sarcasm.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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In my culture, I prefer not to wear clothing in public. I also prefer not to be confined to toilets when transferring personal products. Maybe there are some universal conventions we can accept.

Nudists exist, and compared to the span of human history toilets are a recent phenomenon.

In several cultures right now, today, toilets still do not exist.

Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations

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Copy/pasting a question to LLM and pasting back the output isn't an attempt ar being helpful. It's the equivalent of a lmgtfy link.

But the point OP is making is that it's entirely possible that the person doing this _does_ see it as them being as helpful as possible. That doesn't mean it doesn't suck, or that it isn't annoying, though. I dunno, just seems like a coin toss to me: was this backed by good intentions or not? Without other "evidence", assuming that it was well-meaning but misguided feels better for _both_ of us (at least in my experi…

Hence:

> If you encounter a slop grenade, share this page

Culture is cultured, it isn't the wilds, and requires pruning.

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