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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by pu_pe »

lionkor wrote: post #97
TeMPOraL wrote: post #75

IDK, but I have three or four vibe-coded 0.1%-Photoshops already - small utility apps, all self-contained, client-side, static, zero build-step browser tools, each of them solving a very particular problem for me. Things like, drop an image, get a printable label sheet that force-overrides all margin and scaling settings (recent upgrade to a tool I had that did that with plaintext address data), or metadata-preservin…

And most importantly, you don't care at all if the tool you vibe-coded is any good. If you write at tool that converts an image to black & white, you are the kind of person who doesn't know or care what KIND of black&white it is. The fact that there are many algorithms to choose from would never cross your mind. The same happens with whatever tool you vibe-code. You get the average of the worst quality open source ve…

> And most importantly, you don't care at all if the tool you vibe-coded is any good. If you write at tool that converts an image to black & white, you are the kind of person who doesn't know or care what KIND of black&white it is. The fact that there are many algorithms to choose from would never cross your mind.

Why do you believe that? What if I care so much about black and white and need a specific algorithm, isn't it much better to do that through a tool I can control rather than any proprietary one?

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by ACCount37 »

rimliu wrote: post #239
koonsolo wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same experience on my end. It's crazy what the latest version can pull off, with reference images, text, etc.

so both of you do not understand what Photoshop is really used for.

Do you? I somehow doubt it.

Can you provide an example of something "Photoshop is really used for" that ChatGPT Images 2.0 is completely incapable of doing?

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by miltonlost »

stevex wrote: post #34

I don't think that's the direction this is going to take. Replacing a mature app with an incredibly wide audience and a million use cases may or may not be possible, but what's actually happening is that people are making an app that does exactly what they want, and using it to solve their own needs. Previously you might use Excel to take raw data from various places and analyze it, create charts, reports, extract fi…

> Previously you might use Excel to take raw data from various places and analyze it, create charts, reports, extract findings. Now you can have AI write a script to produce the exactly report you want from the original data

And often from data it makes up!

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by dnautics »

Photoshop is a kitchen sink.

If you are a person using Photoshop and you're vibecoding you're better off just vibecoding what you need to streamline workflows, reduce human mistakes, have better integration with other business concerns, better ai integration, etc. since it has less features, you're not going to be able to/want to competitively offer it on the marketplace, so it won't have much visibility, if any.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by imtringued »

darkwater wrote: post #57

I don't think most of the commenter so far are getting the real meaning of this post. The post author is calling out the "Where are the vibecoded Photoshops?" folks for empty accusations. The "accusers" in their post are THE people asking that question, not the AI users. See this paragraph: > There are no vibecoded Photoshops because vibecoding does not do what the rhetoric claims it does. The accusation itself is th…

But the vast majority of people don't hate vibe coding because it is a cheat code to enhance their productivity. They hate it because it isn't a cheat code and it isn't a cheat code because the results are off from what they ideally should be. So now they are forced to make less decisions, care less about the results and outcomes, for the sake of pretending to be more productive when a simpler LLM chat + copy paste + edit flow could have been closer to the desired end result than letting an agent loose without even looking at the code.

A lot of AI writing is bad and you notice it immediately. AI changes the cost calculus towards unnecessary verbosity and exploring paths that lead to nowhere. Writing block is usually because you don't have anything to say. If you had anything to say, the words would just flood out of your fingers. Easily two thousand to four thousand words per day. You wouldn't be able to keep up physically with your own brain.

I don't know or care whether the blog post is written with AI, but it's not a very good article, because it fails to explain what "the accusation" is, who "the accusers" are and who is being "accused". Despite it being the core part of the article and it being in opposition to the title the article endlessly drifts in its own vagueness, where nothing is concrete and everything is unsaid. It's a puzzle where you're supposed to put the pieces together, you're supposed to just get it and know what the author is thinking, without the author ever having to bother explicitly telling you, so that no matter what interpretation you choose, the author can always gotcha you that you didn't get it, when "it" was never conveyed.

The Photoshop and the gate/level paragraphs are easily read as a criticism of vibe coding, but the accusation paragraphs are a defense of vibe coding.

Honestly, this is giving me "heads I win, tails you lose" vibes.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by [deleted] »

darkwater wrote: post #57

I don't think most of the commenter so far are getting the real meaning of this post. The post author is calling out the "Where are the vibecoded Photoshops?" folks for empty accusations. The "accusers" in their post are THE people asking that question, not the AI users. See this paragraph: > There are no vibecoded Photoshops because vibecoding does not do what the rhetoric claims it does. The accusation itself is th…

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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by beej71 »

stevex wrote: post #34

I don't think that's the direction this is going to take. Replacing a mature app with an incredibly wide audience and a million use cases may or may not be possible, but what's actually happening is that people are making an app that does exactly what they want, and using it to solve their own needs. Previously you might use Excel to take raw data from various places and analyze it, create charts, reports, extract fi…

I think there's some low-hanging money to be made with a nearly-feature-complete PS clone.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by fragmede »

jeroenhd wrote: post #233
joenot443 wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> neither will the one off random app that only your household uses This reminds me a bit of the 2010s idea that every house would have a 3D printer to make one off repairs. Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer. Vibe coded apps are great, but unless they're hitting an already open API, they're effectively hermetic.…

> would have a 3D printer to make one off repairs The problem with that is, like many people found out the hard way, that printing is the easy part and 3D CAD design is much harder. Many people now have 3D printers to print all kinds of useful tools, though, and there are businesses dedicated to one-off prints for the very occasional repair.

3D cad is avoided by having a critical mass of other people putting their cad online. I used https://makerworld.com/models/77668 to replace my one that broke. Easy-peasy.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by CalRobert »

joenot443 wrote: post #211
netdevphoenix wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. Anti-AI Devs/Techies have their heads in the sand or/and resorting to binary thinking when it comes to AI. No one is going to vibe code a Photoshop replacement just like no average smartphone user is going to take prize winning photographs with their phone or directly compete with professional photographs. What is going to happen is what happened to videographers and photographers and what is happening…

> neither will the one off random app that only your household uses This reminds me a bit of the 2010s idea that every house would have a 3D printer to make one off repairs. Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer. Vibe coded apps are great, but unless they're hitting an already open API, they're effectively hermetic.…

I think there's a use case for LLM's being able to treat websites as API's (I mean, it is an API, really, running on port 80/443) but this is why attestation seems designed to ensure only large companies can do this and not end users.
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