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DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by taytus »

cpursley wrote: post #192
justech wrote: post #30

If you're looking for Claude Code alternatives, I would first suggest looking into pi.dev or opencode for your harness. And then for models, you can choose from OpenCode Go (IMO most cost effect at this moment), OpenRouter, or direct from DeepSeek. Better if you go the Kimi route IMO and just buy a subscription from kimi.com

How does the kimi subscription compare to Codex and Claude Code in terms of how much mileage you get for the pricing? I mean, I see the prices but not sure how usage that buys.

Kimi feels almost limitless. I have the $40/month plan and I've never ever remotely close to hitting the limit. Using opus as the orchestrator.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by lostdog »

Matl wrote: post #270
boondongle wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wolf Warrior diplomacy isn't even 10 years dead. The HK treaty was violated and continues to be. Taiwan gets threatened every other week. People can have problems with America and I'm fine with that. But pretending China isn't subsidizing industry (land, education, transportation) in a predatory fashion is silly. Too many companies have gone out of business because of it. We can all have our friends in China without…

The US assisted a genocide, literally kidnapped the president of a sovereign country so it could take its oil, threatened its own allies with invasion and started a war of aggression against another so that it can take their oil, all in a span of a few months. But tell me more.

Yes, if you just list 3 more problems about the US then it means that China has no problems at all.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by ManuelSuarez »

bwfan123 wrote: post #93
morpheos137 wrote: post #24

anthropic messed up big time harness works with any muh commodity LLM, meanwhile VCs were duped on the myth of FOOM AGI, probably not a cooincidence Anthropic is enmeshed with the scifi fan fic forum known as lesswrong. The world wants useful tools. The bay area bubble in contrast thrives on Mythos.

> anthropic messed up big time harness works with any muh commodity LLM that surprised me too. The intelligence is at the client, and by making that open, anthropic has commoditized the coding agent.

I mean, it's not like claude code is the most impressive agent of the pack.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by striking »

jorvi wrote: post #228
lhl wrote: post #205

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For those that don't want their data trained on, OpenRouter allows you to have account-wide or per-request routing with either provider.data_collection: "deny" or zdr: true (zero data retention). Also, you can use HuggingFace Inference for DeepSeek V4 or Kimi K2.6, both of which work quite well and route through providers that you can enable/disable (like Together AI, DeepInfra, etc) - you'll have to check their poli…

That doesn't work, if you do that it will mark DeepSeek's models with a warning symbol along with the error "paid model training violation".

In those cases, OpenRouter just chooses providers that agree not to train / offer ZDR. Which sometimes means you start off without access to the model until some other providers start offering it.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

ulimn wrote: post #263
sumeno wrote: post #236

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If it's a project you actually care about and are actively working on it'll be just as good 3 months from now. If it's something that'll be irrelevant in 3 months why should anyone care about it?

That is true in most cases I guess but just look at the current product in OP. In 3 months, at the pace AI products evolve, we might "all" be using the next AI coding harness and Claude Code could be a thing of the past. So it's not a long lasting tool like curl for example. All I'm trying to say that generalizing like suggested might exclude some useful things.

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Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by vinckr »

sumeno wrote: post #239
altmanaltman wrote: post #121

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To be fair, HN sent it to the front page, not the user. The rest I agree.

A project that obviously bought stars on GitHub probably bought upvotes on HN too

How is it obvious that this project bought starts on GitHub?

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by andxor »

isege wrote: post #163

> Claude Code is the best autonomous coding agent. If you look at the terminal-bench@2.0 leaderboard, you'll quickly see it's actually one of the weakest agentic harnesses. Anthropic's own models score lower with Claude Code than with virtually any other harness. So it's quite the opposite. Claude Code is arguably the worst harness to run models with.

Then the benchmarks are wrong.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by iloveplants »

dzink wrote: post #254

Tried DeepSeek V4 Pro and Flash on Open Router and they worked fine - flash might have actually produced a better result, but also the same prompt across different inference providers produced the same result. Then tried DS4 Pro again via tinfoil.sh and got the same design but littered with random Chinese characters in the code. Tinfoil pegs prompt data as private / not trained on. Do know know DS4 providers that are…

i'm confused. how does this prove, or even insinuate, that they're training on your data? and if they were, there's no way it would appear that soon
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