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The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by salad-tycoon »

padjo wrote: post #212
Xcelerate wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean that trick works on humans too. Fake IDs, provide two types of documentation for a driver's license, passport, or buying a home, etc.

Can we just stop the "well actually its kinda like how humans work" talk when discussing AI failures? It contributes nothing novel to the discussion.

Sometimes it reveals hidden biases within ourselves/society as a whole. Like, do I give gays preferential treatment in a way to avoid seeming discriminatory?

It does feel a bit Supra-therapeutic at times tho, agreed but maybe it’s one small novel contribution.

My bigger question is: WHY can’t we stop the human vs AI comparisons?

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by 47282847 »

secondary_op wrote: post #180

This checks out, and reflects obscene world of SV according to bragging insider Lucy Guo @lucy_guo How to be successful in Silicon Valley: 1. Be born a man 2. Be gay 3. Hook up with the right people 4. Repeat #3 until you've made it I've heard of investors leading rounds, founders getting multi million dollar contracts, and more. It's wild stuff. Not the paypal mafia but the gay mafia

Hint: You can replace “gay” in the second bullet point with any adjective of your liking, and it still works!

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by nailer »

vovavili wrote: post #119
nailer wrote: post #90

There was a test for the value of human life against OpenAI models last year. GPT de-valued 'white' people based on their skin color: https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/llm-exchange-rates-updat...

I only dream of a Grey Tribe equivalent of Grok that's actually not embarrassing to use. If the goal of technology is to elevate the human condition, then woke excesses should be treated, not amplified, by the use of tech.

What do you mean by grey tribe?

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by bloppe »

fluoridation wrote: post #244
bloppe wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intention is very relevant to legal interpretations of "unauthorized access"; both the intentions of the owner, and the intentions of the "intruder". See for example United States v. Auernheimer. There's relatively well-established precedent that when a service tries to safeguard some information, that information is legally protected no matter how technically feeble the attempt at safeguarding it was.

That would make all LLM jailbreaking illegal, not specifically the FBI one.

It's not specifically tested in court and I sorta doubt OAI would start suing random users for attempting jailbreaks, but if they did, I wouldn't be surprised if they could win based on the most relevant precedents

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Post by vovavili »

nailer wrote: post #273
vovavili wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only dream of a Grey Tribe equivalent of Grok that's actually not embarrassing to use. If the goal of technology is to elevate the human condition, then woke excesses should be treated, not amplified, by the use of tech.

What do you mean by grey tribe?

Libertarian/rationalist-adjacent.

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Post by sunnybeetroot »

Teever wrote: post #264
maweaver wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but generally one cannot walk into a store and buy a fake id, then turn around and hand it to another cashier in the same store for a restricted purchase. Which I think would be the closer metaphor.

My favourite example of bureaucracy that I've ever personally experienced and that I consider to be a hole in one is when I had to show my ID to pick up my passport from the office. I paused for a second and asked the lady what was up with that and if I can now use my passport if I got back in the line for something else without using my ID and she said yes.

Why is this weird? You have to show ID that matches the passport and then in the future you can use a passport as your ID, makes sense.

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Post by maxrev17 »

UqWBcuFx6NV4r wrote: post #64

The funniest jailbreak techniques are the ones where the authors take it upon themselves to (with little basis) assert “why” the technique works. It always a bit of amateur philosophy that shines a light on the author’s worldview, providing no real value.

Like business people giving you the formulaic approach for success yet never achieving it
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