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Very different tech and limitations though so wouldn’t make sense to compare 1:1 I think
What are the limitations ?
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What's liberal identity politics have to do with leftism? Liberalism is a center-right ideology. Us leftists are concerned with class issues, not identity issues. Focusing on identity is nothing but a way to distract from class.
Lol. Gender ideology is very much a policy of left wing parties.
You may go for the One True Scotsman argument and say it's not proper leftism, and you may be right, but that doesn't stop it being policy.
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#273This project is a gigantic waste of resources, it’s fine tuned on politics of the CEO, was used for CSAM generation and just sucks overall
I like that there are models with divergent politics; the status quo being creepy corporate left silicon valley is not healthy or pleasant to interact with. Even with grock it's only broadening things to creepy corporate right of silicon valley.
I'll take the fake corporate "left" over white supremacy any day.
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#274It's Google time to release something. If I'm not mistaken, it's the big lab that did not release a big model in the last month.
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Sadly, it's more likely that people will just start talking like bots
There was already evidence last year[1] that pointed to ChatGPT-specific words like "meticulous," "delve," etc becoming more frequently used than they were previously. The linked study used audio of academic talks and podcasts to determine this. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.01754
Part of me wanted to object to those two examples, which I’ve used frequently since the reaching adulthood in the 80s. Another part of me has been triggered by an apparent uptick in the word “crisp”, which my gut takes as an coding-LLM tell.
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So interestingly, I know of at least one application in a charity that deals with trafficking where grok was happy to do one-shot classification tasks where all other models refused to cooperate. I think there's a surprising number of actually useful applications in this sort of grey area for a slightly-less guardrailed, near-frontier model (also the grok-fast models are cheap!).
There are lots of uncensored models out there. I don't think grok is leading in that front. They kind of pick and choose which things they want to support based on elons world views. Elon used to hang out with sex traffickers so of course grok is fine talking about it. Probably even offers strategies for them does free accounting has money laundering strategies etc...
What are the leading uncensored models? How well do they perform for you?
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#277Grok is my favorite model for chatting, and my favorite voice mode. It seems to be the only voice mode that isn't routing to a extremely cheap model (like Haiku), and has been the highest quality out of all the frontier ones. When you subscribe to SuperGrok you can also create a "council" of agents, each with their own system prompt and when you ask something, they will all get asked in parallel to come to a conclusi…
The Gemini app voice mode uses one of their more recent models (and not some gimped small one), and is very capable. The personality is also fine, much more natural than the Gemini web chat, with my only complaint being it's insistence on suggesting a "next step" which seems to he something that they all do. I'm not sure if the "next step" is just to drive cost up for you (but makes no sense for free version), or bec…
An interesting side bit about the gemini voice model is that you can use it in AI studio and type messages instead of using the microphone.
On the backend google does TTS to feed the model, which then speaks back you via sound on your speakers.
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From what I can gather Grok is not used for roleplay much. It is considered to inconsistant and crazy. People are mostly using GLM and Deepseek via API and Gemma4 and Mistral finetunes locally. It seems to me like the roleplay market is comparatively old and mature and users have developed cost consciousness and like models to follow their workflow/preferences. So something like Opus is liked for its smartness but co…
It ships with a roleplay feature. https://grok.com/ani
The grok companions still aren't available on Android :( Such a wasted market opportunity
I'm not an anime person, but I thought the waifus were kind of endearing and seemed like a much better experience for casual prompting
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