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At long last, InfoWars is ours

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Re: At long last, InfoWars is ours

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He can own new things. So, other than inconveniencing him slightly, I'm not sure what we've accomplished.

... after he services his debt, then he can have toys.

That's not at all how corporate or personal bankruptcies work. You exactly prove my point.

Re: At long last, InfoWars is ours

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Reanimating a corpse that was killed under suspicious circumstances, all while milking value out of a name someone else developed and cultivated for years. Frankenstein's monster wearing a skin-suit. I don't see the money in this outside of the freakshow factor. Everybody loves a freak show, but who wants to live there?

Re: At long last, InfoWars is ours

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I think it’s pretty obvious that the cringe-worthy part is the story-selection. To refer to anoyher headline, do they run a story every time some Englishman fucks a goat? No, of course not; it’s only newsworthy if it’s [minority you should hate]. That’s cringeworthy.

wait, hang on, someone did what to a goat...?

Why do Scotsmen wear kilts?

Re: At long last, InfoWars is ours

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Saying two different things at two different times is not prima face evidence of lying. For instance: changing your mind is not lying. Again, I find it ironic that you're using the same conspiratorial line of thinking that Jones himself does: e.g. "The CDC has changed their mask guidance so they must be lying about it"

It was convenient timing for him to call the shootings "100% real" the moment he ended up in court for it.

People often do realize they were wrong about their prior convictions when they're sitting in a courtroom, a decade later, faced with a life changing situation, and forced to hear overwhelming evidence of how they were wrong.

If this guy was some kind of savant, he wouldn't have been in that situation at all. There is no evidence that he is some evil genius. He has no higher education and is a diagnosed narcissist.

Re: At long last, InfoWars is ours

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"6-Week-Old" babies don't have the muscle strength to hold their heads horizontally like that (and IMHO it would be foolhardy to wave them around like that)... Pronounced social smiling (as in the video) already by six weeks would also pretty unusual.

Hah yes, many years I got into a debate with someone here or was it Reddit about the "intuitiveness of iOS" and someone claiming "I've handed my iPad to my 3 month old and they are able to swipe and navigate"... No, your baby typically needs to be propped up to sit at that age. They simply don't have that fine motor control and coordination, let alone the comprehension of whatever app you put in front of them.

My 7-month old likes to play with my android watch. It's locked so she just futzes with the lock screen. But she doesn't know how to swipe or navigate, she just likes that it's shiny and does something interesting when she touches is.

That said, for me, having only ever used android phones, I always find myself wondering "how do you go back" when I help my mom with her iPhone. No back button! So I guess I'm not as intuitive as a 3 month old on reddit :)

Re: At long last, InfoWars is ours

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Can someone put me to speed on it? Who is the onion? Who is info wars? What is happening? I can't comprehend but it feels that I cannot really Google for it

The Onion is a long standing satirical news site. They run crazy stories intended to make readers laugh. Infowars was a disinformation/conspiracy site that ran crazy headlines to outrage their audience. The owner of Infowars was sued into oblivion for saying the Sandy Hook school shooting was faked as a pretense to pass gun control. So now crazy conspiracy site is sold to satire site to help pay off the massive judgment against them. Basically a merger of the two fakest news sites on the Internet except now we can all just laugh.

Re: At long last, InfoWars is ours

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The key element you’re missing is that the lawsuit accused Alex Jones of knowing that he was lying. I.e., it’s not that he was speculating — it’s that he knew he wasn’t telling the truth. To quote Jones: “We’ve clearly got people where it’s actors playing different parts of different people. I’ve looked at it and undoubtedly there’s a cover-up, there’s actors, they’re manipulating, they’ve been caught lying and they…

> That isn’t even phrased as a “what if” — it’s asserting that Sandy Hook was staged. It’s framed as a truth, not a possibility, and the jury found that Alex Jones knew it wasn’t true when he was saying it. I think the deliberate maliciousness of it should bare more punishment, but I still think $1B is extremely unreasonable. It's also absurd to me that a judge should have the right to make up an arbitrarily big numb…

Judges don't have that ability.

They have the ability to determine punitive damages within guidelines (many states have caps, for example), and if the defendant feels the damages are unreasonable they have every right to appeal to a higher court. Eventually the Supreme Court may make an unappealable decision, but the appeals process has to stop somewhere.

And at some point society needs a way to tell people who ignore lesser consequences that they don't get to participate in that society any more. In this case I think Alex Jones crossed enough malicious lines to deserve it; he's in bad shape because he's the kind of person who accuses school shooting survivors of fraud even though he knew he wasn't true! He had every chance in the world to back off and apologize, but he didn't. He tried to avoid facing judgement by hiding behind bankruptcy. He is a very bad human being.

Now, is that always the case for this kind of judgement? Nope, sometimes the system fails. Some people would say Gawker is an example of that failure. I am not totally sure about that one, but even if it is... I'm reluctant to toss out an entire system unless it's a systemic problem. And Alex Jones experiencing consequences for lying for profit does not seem, to me, to be evidence of a systemic problem.

Re: At long last, InfoWars is ours

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Please can someone correct my opinion on this because I'm sure I'm missing something. I find it crazy that in the US you can't take an opinion on something without risking being bankrupted because that thing you said is later proven untrue and that it hurt someone's feelings – feeling which in the US have a monetary value of billions apparently. I agree that the media should be evidence based and it's bad when the me…

The key element you’re missing is that the lawsuit accused Alex Jones of knowing that he was lying. I.e., it’s not that he was speculating — it’s that he knew he wasn’t telling the truth. To quote Jones: “We’ve clearly got people where it’s actors playing different parts of different people. I’ve looked at it and undoubtedly there’s a cover-up, there’s actors, they’re manipulating, they’ve been caught lying and they…

> we’re talking harassment that these folks received as a result of Jones’ lies

Remember when BBC edited someone's speech to call citizens to storm and riot at a certain building?

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