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AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
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Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you consider say elevator music - music that's just there to fill space, rather than to be listened too - then I don't think there's that much difference between using AI to produce it and using AI to produce clip art or boilerplate code.
Well, code and visual art is more differentiated, so the thing you need probably doesn't exist and it would take effort & money to procure it. Not always, but often enough to make rational people default to AI. With music... if there's a style you like, no matter how eclectic, there are probably thousands matching human-recorded tracks you can listen to today.
Finding those thousands of matching human-recorded tracks and curating them into playlists seems like a benign use of music-aware ML models.
Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
#273I find the production and consumption of AI music to be uniquely... anti-human. You can make utilitarian arguments for most other uses of AI. For example, the code you're generating didn't exist before, and it would take serious time or money to write it. So, I get it, the economic argument is compelling enough. But music? There's basically an inexhaustible supply of human-created tracks that can be accessed for next…
Having AI create music frees us up to do other things with our time.
Indeed, like toiling in factories and mines and farms.
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#274I’ve listened to his three top songs on Spotify. They’re practically the same songs with different lyrics. I know approximately 0 music theory and I could tell they’re almost identical.
Are these really the top songs or they have only become the top songs thanks to Spotify pushing them ?
Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
#275I find the production and consumption of AI music to be uniquely... anti-human. You can make utilitarian arguments for most other uses of AI. For example, the code you're generating didn't exist before, and it would take serious time or money to write it. So, I get it, the economic argument is compelling enough. But music? There's basically an inexhaustible supply of human-created tracks that can be accessed for next…
Have you heard of dubstep? It sounds like robots falling down stairs, and humans made it and love it. If AI can make music less crappy, I'm all for it.
Not to mention vaporwave, which typically boils down to “take song, reduce bass, slow down”.
Or vaporwave's inverse, nightcore, which typically boils down to ”take song, increase bass, speed up”.
Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
#276We've seen a steady shift in music over the past 2 decades from full length albums, to single hits, to artificially generated. Surely there's some gained and some lost. But coming from the era of buying an entire album, spending time reading the CD booklets and art, and listening to 10 songs which tell a larger story ---- what's being lost really hits home.
There is another new trend now that some artists are doing album concerts, where the set list follows one of their albums. I thought that was cool.. probably as a reaction, on how to bring back the album in a way.
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow, this song is horribly mastered.
It's not great in that way. The mastering -- if there is any -- is definitely kind of shit. But that's a relatively easy thing for a human with the right combination of toolchain, ears, and experience to fix. It tends to be a slow process that takes a good bit of time, but lots of actual-mixdowns start off way worse than this before they get polished up by a skilled mastering engineer. (Maybe in a year or three we'll…
Audio mastering is already automated to the level of a mediocre human:
https://github.com/sergree/matchering
(I haven't actually tried this, I just watched the linked Benn Jordan video.)
IMO, the ideal would be for all music to be supplied unmastered so the listener's playback software can apply this process to their own taste. Mastering is necessary for listening with garbage playback equipment (e.g. phone speakers) or noisy listening environments (e.g. cars, parties), but it makes things sound worse in good conditions. The best sounding music CDs I own are classical CDs on Telarc that have liner notes bragging about the complete lack of mastering.
Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
#278Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated. Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.
If the artists have live shows, it's generally a good indication it's not AI (for now at least).
It’s mainly the mental load that you even have to think about it.
I find also that much like junk food, AI music is optimized to be catchy. The initial feeling I get is “yeah this is nice”, but then you realize the lyrics are weird, some words don’t exist, the voice is off…
Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
Music as wallpaper vs music as artistic paintings. We are fine with mass-producing wallpaper with machines. People buy this every day, no problem. We are not fine with mass-producing framed paintings that are "art". Both hang on the wall as decoration. Essentially the same purpose. But we have very different feelings about them and hold them to very different standards. Music is the same. We have muzak - background m…
> We are not fine with mass-producing framed paintings that are "art". China is full of factories where exactly this is being done and people are fine with this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15742507
Seems a bit silly, though. More economical to paint (or draw, or cut-and-paste, or whatever) one original, scan it, then print many copies.
Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
#280Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated. Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.
If the artists have live shows, it's generally a good indication it's not AI (for now at least).
It's not like this one's even trying to hide it, one look at their Instagram will tell you everything: https://www.instagram.com/eddiedaltonmusic/
I'd like to point out that there's absolutely no way an Instagram account that is not even a month old gets hundreds of thousands of likes almost every upload. That should be an immediate red flag to everyone, Instagram included.
Another thing worth pointing out is that iTunes charts in 2026 are pretty meaningless. Do you buy music on iTunes? Does anyone else you know buy music on iTunes? Even those that still buy music have at least 3-4 more relevant stores to chase after. It's like finding a niche book category on Amazon, anyone could astroturf their way to the top 100 and I doubt it'd cost you more than for a legitimate artist to even rent a studio to record an album properly.