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GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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What do you use for code review and CI/CD then?

You can do it with forgejo, just have to self-host the runners

I am excited about its potential integration with jujutsu: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/discussions/issues/325

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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I’ll never understand why they ruined GitHub. They had everything they needed - the one place in the world where 99% of open source projects were hosted, where all the discussions happened. A product that people were so used to that it was a no brainer when it came to hosting private repos. And they had to ruin it and give space to GitLab and other competitors. What a waste…

I'll never understand why anyone thought they wouldn't ruin it. It's a miracle it even exists anymore.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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They can have the new users pushing out sloppy projects. The serious users leaving will definitely dent profitability. And GitHub being a social network, could start a death spiral.

What profitability? I'm pretty sure GitHub is a loss leader to push people to Azure and cloud services. I also don't know anyone who actually uses GitHub as a social network even though it ostensibly has such features.

The social features were GH's early secret sauce that contributed heavily to its stickiness and why it eventually dominated. IMO.

I should have said "will dent whatever profitability." I'm not sure it exists either. From the outside, it would seem crazy that it wouldn't be profitable with all the Enterprise stuff (and it's not like you can throw 10k engineers at whatever GH is doing).

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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I’ll never understand why they ruined GitHub. They had everything they needed - the one place in the world where 99% of open source projects were hosted, where all the discussions happened. A product that people were so used to that it was a no brainer when it came to hosting private repos. And they had to ruin it and give space to GitLab and other competitors. What a waste…

Because it's Microsoft. Categorically incapable of respecting their users. What's interesting to me is how many people went like 'Oh, Satya really gets open source, this time it will be different'. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225599

always noticed way too much reverence for satya because of what he did to valuations. i personally cant stand azure/365/all of it. i reserve no reverence for satya, he's playing a game in a class/world none of us can even relate to so i don't even see the point in talking about his achievements. looking back, it unequivocally sucks that microsoft acquired github.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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I guess it's time to consider ditching GitHub. Everything that are purchased by Microsoft ware destined to be rotten.

Funny that people said the exact same thing back when GitHub was originally acquired [0], I wonder how many actually went through with their words and ditched it. I bet GitHub has more users today than ever before though. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17227286

>Why MS cares your private repositories? give a reason? Maybe using your code to train their programming robot, lol

>Whether they will abuse the trust of having complete and total access to every private repo and all of the code inside or not remains to be seen

>MS is pushing their ads within their own OS more and more, will GitHub get the same treatment[...]?

Funny.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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I have no control over the morality of others. Whereas I have direct control over how I use technology.

This is a non-statement. The reverse is also true. I have no control over the technology that others use. Whereas I have direct control over my own morality.

When asking for moral progress rather then technological progress, it's not an inverse.

People can build technology, or I can build technology, but we generally all get it. Its distribution requires nothing of me or others psychologically.

You can't just build and distribute morality, and adopting it is a massive personal change.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Even aside from that, what are we doing centralizing FOSS project hosting on a closed source Microsoft platform?

It was much better than the closed source SourceForge which existed before it. A lot of small projects dont have the energy to self host. Plus for small projects the barrier of entry is an issue. I recently found a typo in an error message in Garage but since they run their own Forgejo instance and OpenID never really became a thing I never created a PR. It is first now with Codeberg there is a credible alternative.…

> It is first now with Codeberg there is a credible alternative.

There is no credible alternative, because 3rd party hosting of the canonical repo is a bad idea to start with. By all means use 3rd party hosting for a more public-facing interaction, but its about time that developers understand that they need to host their own canonical repos.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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GitLab is quite good, the organizational features and CI is also mostly on par with GitHub. You can use gitlab.com, SaaS or self-host.

But compared to GitHub it's much more complicated in terms of UX as it covers more enterprise use cases that GitHub doesn't.

Why do you think this? It really isn't.

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I guess it's time to consider ditching GitHub. Everything that are purchased by Microsoft ware destined to be rotten.

What are some good alternatives for closed source codebases that people have been using and enjoying? I only ask because I already know of good alternatives for FOSS, but it's the private / work projects that keep me tethered to GH for now.

GitLab. We self-host ours and it's rock solid.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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I'm not suprised Raycast is involved in this marketing scheme. They pollute their own product with ads where they shouldn't be. Whoever is running their marketing team needs a lesson in not pissing off your userbase.

Sometimes I see something nifty in Raycast and it tempts me. Then I see something weird from them, look in the Alfred manual, and realize it already supports the same feature and that I’ll stay put, thanks.

Yeah same 100%
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