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Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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And who are you to personally know enough billionaires intimately enough to absolve them of any guilt they might have earned hoarding enough wealth to reach that level?

What does "hoard wealth" mean to you? A vault full of gold that they swim in? Jeff Bezos's net worth is mostly in the form of server racks and amazon inventory. Elon's net worth is mostly in the form of share certificates that are marked to market and contingent on delusional investors swallowing Elons own promises. This is the peg that society is constantly snagging on. The billionaire class doesn't actually have mu…

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Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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>I can look past some of the stupid shit he says. He gets freedom of speech too That just means it’s legally permissible, not reasonable, respectable, or conscionable. Do not look past the things he says.

No I mean the actual stupid shit he says, not the stupid policies he enacts. Like randomly getting up during a cabinet meeting to admire a ballroom that doesn't exist yet. That's stupid but harmless.

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Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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We can also tell because anyone who can take the time to use a computer with internet to write a comment in well-formed English is already comparatively wealthy or connected enough to provide food and housing for dozens of people.

Dirt poor people in 3rd world countries have smartphones and internet access and write comments in well-formed English.

All of them? Weird argument to take

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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> And the commenter aren't wrong when they blame the administration. They wouldn't be wrong to blame previous administrations either. But the previous administrations aren't in power right now They are wrong. The current administration did not make a call to widen the permissions or make it intentionally overly broad. > This pretty much insinuates Biden (and Trump v1, and Obama, and Bush) didn't fix it. Why do you be…

> The current administration did not make a call to widen the permissions or make it intentionally overly broad. Maybe not. But are they not responsible for an app that literally markets itself as the official federal govt app? If Meta sold FB to me am I not responsible for the algorithms that I now own, that perpetuates misinformation? > Why do you believe the president is responsible? Could be just a lazy contracto…

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Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Not all areas are equally good at growing food. That can be because of climate, soil quality, war or simply population density requiring housing and industry.

Is shipping food there the correct solution? For war, an ostensibly temporary condition, by all means ship the population food. But if an area is already overcrowded beyond what the land can sustain (due to climate, soil quality, or population density) then is it productive to further bolster the population? Seems a human catastrophe in the making, supporting population growth in an area where the land can not supply…

This is literally how cities exist. Or in your world view is food not shipped into cities?

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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To be fair, if I had $999 million, it'd be bugging me all the time until I got to $1B.

Yeah, but you have to be really careful or you’ll pull the handle just a bit too much and hit $1,000,000,000.01.

It's fine, it's a nice palindromic number!

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Is shipping food there the correct solution? For war, an ostensibly temporary condition, by all means ship the population food. But if an area is already overcrowded beyond what the land can sustain (due to climate, soil quality, or population density) then is it productive to further bolster the population? Seems a human catastrophe in the making, supporting population growth in an area where the land can not supply…

This is literally how cities exist. Or in your world view is food not shipped into cities?

My worldview is based on the cities I've lived in, in which the citizens of that city have the means to purchase the food themselves. Therefore the movement of food into that city is in the economic interest of those supplying the food. Furthermore, that food _is_ grown locally, within half a tank of gas from the city itself.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Huge numbers (billions) of people have enough money to make massive changes to the lives of those less fortunate than them, but don't, and prefer instead to make incremental upgrades to their own lives. New rugs, more savings, first-class airline tickets, eating out a few more times a month, etc. This is just human nature. People who are at wealth level x tend to say, "I can't believe that people at wealth level x+1…

I'm not talking about people with x+1, where X is a standard US middle-class amount of money. In that case, $20k or $100k or some amount that would make a tiny difference in the world is a huge amount of money to a middle-class family. No, I'm talking about wealth level X*100. For them, the difference between $100M and $1B is basically no difference in the quality of life to that family. They'd have 1 fewer megayacht…

Hmmm.

> For them, the difference between $100M and $1B is basically no difference in the quality of life to that family.

I think money at that level is not about family quality of life. It's usually about buying companies, launching product lines, etc.

> They could give away $900M, and eliminate hunger forever in a large city or a small state. $100B is 100x that again, they could give away $99.9B, still have $100M, and solve poverty in most _countries_.

Ehhh...

Most people who have $X billion don't really have that. They just have controlling shares in a company that's worth a lot, and media companies like Forbes enjoy making headlines by pretending that's cash. Actually turning that into cash would be impossible.

Of course, they can still turn meaningful percentages of it into cash and give it away, that's true. And I think more billionaires should.

But also, many problems aren't money problems. For example, simply flooding a state or a small city with money isn't going to "solve hunger forever." Hunger and poverty are more often an issue around distribution and logistics, infrastructure, politics, culture and conflict, and things like that. Huge cash giveaways famously tend to disappear and accomplish very little.

The single biggest force that reduces suffering and poverty in an enduring way, imo, is the creation and proliferation of technology. Vaccines that are cheaper to produce. Water filtration systems that are easier to maintain. Seeds and crops that are heartier and more durable. Healthcare that's more affordable and available. Etc. Advances like this have reduced more suffering and ended more poverty and counteracted more famine and saved more lives than any amount of charity ever has or could.

What I would like to see more of is billionaires and even super-talented non-billionaires starting more organizations that are a force for good. Or using money from profitable enterprises to fund unprofitable-yet-charitable enterprises.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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This is literally how cities exist. Or in your world view is food not shipped into cities?

My worldview is based on the cities I've lived in, in which the citizens of that city have the means to purchase the food themselves. Therefore the movement of food into that city is in the economic interest of those supplying the food. Furthermore, that food _is_ grown locally, within half a tank of gas from the city itself.

I should note that the cities I'm familiar with, and thus my worldview, have multiple thousands of independent suppliers bringing food into the cities as profitable businesses, not a single altruistic organisation functioning off donations. Therefore there are much fewer catastrophic points of failure - an event that would prevent food from getting into the city would be a large, wide geographical catastrophe. Not the whimsical changing of political positions or sudden misfortune of donors. And in this worldview, when natural pressures such as population overdensity occur, the feedback loop stabilises at a sustainable level - those for whom food becomes too expensive move to cheaper places. I've done it myself.
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