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Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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post #15

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Electric cars aren't cheap, and electricity prices are very high in Europe.

BYD EVs are affordable. Electricity will get cheaper with more renewables, oil will not.

> Electricity will get cheaper with more renewables

Citation?

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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post #11

Hope that gets Europe to invest in renewables and leave oil behind.

Hasn't Germany and the UK been investing in renewables for years now? They must be feeling pretty happy about that decision right now unlike oil obsessed countries like the US.

If so they must have very low domestic electricity prices (according to many people who continue to claim renewables = lower prices!)

Oh, wait, they don't. At all

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Meanwhile in India, people are queuing up to get LPG cylinders (cooking gas) and the government is making similar statements as quoted in this article that there are no shortages.

Pump prices of petrol and diesel in India are being kept the same by reducing taxes since there are some key state elections next month and the ruling party of the union government doesn’t want to hurt its chances.

Expect fuel prices in India to go up in May and the following months, even though procurement from Russia is increasing.

With a fertilizer shortage, the consequences of this war are making things tougher and tougher for common people everywhere.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Scanning some of the early comments here, and acting as-if the oil and LNG disruptions is just a question of renewable investment is naive. This is the worst energy crisis in modern history, and little of the western world has really started feeling the effects yet: https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-energy/iran-war-... Petro is pretty much upstream of everything: plastics, fertilizers, pharmaceuticals, cook…

>This could easily spiral out of control and cause a level of suffering across the world (esp the global south) most of us on this forum have not lived to see. Daily anxiety attack thanks. As a european I think we are way too vulnerable. Countries divided, rich getting richer, more and more poor people who can barely afford food, and that's in Europe let alone talk about what happens with the poor in Africa and Asia.…

Just look how you react on news. Those stories are here for purpose. To frightens mind that is easy to manipulate with and accept all kind of fatalistic scenarios. At the end you will just paying more for less.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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> If the clouds turns out to be a really bad storm, people will buckle down and sort it. 100% this. People need to understand this.

The other thing is that it is WAY too easy to distract yourself from your solvable problems by focusing on the big ones - you have to fight that with ferocity. Why get out of debt? The country is a brazillian trillion in debt we’re doomed. Why invest for retirement or save? The market is fraud anyway. Why exercise and lose weight? The planet is doomed anyway.

Why are you in debt? Why you need investment for later? Why are you overweight? It sounds like cause of problems are overlooked.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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post #170
post #149

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Is global economic collapse not an eschatological scenario? When you say "everything is still getting better", what do you mean? Because the price of fuel and food, isn't getting better. It seems to be getting worse. Your version of "reality" doesn't seem to reflect the experience of a lot of people. > people will buckle down and sort it. It's an interesting series of words that don't say a lot. There is much to wond…

> Is global economic collapse not an eschatological scenario? Not really, no. In this case 20-25% of the world's oil disappearing doesn't sound like it should be an 'everything collapses' scenario, we still have >75% of the oil around and oil isn't the only energy source. Everyone has always seen a "worst economic collapse of my lifetime" and although this one looks like it is going to be unusually horrific it isn't…

You're missing that the impact is not evenly distributed. It doesn't mean everyone gets 25% less petrol, tighten the belt a little bit, take one fewer trip to starbucks, and all is well.

It means rich countries get the 75% while the poor countries get nothing and starve. What happens when a nuclear power like India starts to lack food?

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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For sure. Heat pumps aren't the best option everywhere (though modern heat pumps probably function acceptably at lower temperatures than most people realize), but if you need to do electric heating, they are the best option most places.

For "human" temperatures don't they just degrade back to the efficiency of resistive heating? Or are some places actually cold enough to push the factor below 1?

> Or are some places actually cold enough to push the factor below 1?

Probably some far north, but not that many. My Kaiteki 6600 has[1] a SCOP of 5.1 and a factory guaranteed COP at -25C (-13F) of 3.1.

[1]: https://mee.no/privat/produktkategori/luft-luft-varmepumper/...

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

#278

Scanning some of the early comments here, and acting as-if the oil and LNG disruptions is just a question of renewable investment is naive. This is the worst energy crisis in modern history, and little of the western world has really started feeling the effects yet: https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-energy/iran-war-... Petro is pretty much upstream of everything: plastics, fertilizers, pharmaceuticals, cook…

>This could easily spiral out of control and cause a level of suffering across the world (esp the global south) most of us on this forum have not lived to see. Daily anxiety attack thanks. As a european I think we are way too vulnerable. Countries divided, rich getting richer, more and more poor people who can barely afford food, and that's in Europe let alone talk about what happens with the poor in Africa and Asia.…

How is a global reset going to solve the problem of not enough oil getting exported out of Arabian Gulf oil fields to provide energy to the rest of the world?

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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post #206

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And yet we are a lot more globalized than in the 1970s. Ressources can be diverted at a much quicker rate with a lot more agility.

Yes, couldn't make either face masks or toilet paper during covid. Most people will find out how fragile everything is with idiot MBAs optimizing just-in-time for better quarterly reports!

Good! Then a much-needed correction in behavior will follow.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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post #165

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It did not. Dimona city got hit. https://t.me/QudsNen/215116 Plant is far away from there.

Why is Iran hitting civilian targets?

Why are the US and Israel hitting civilian targets including at least one desalination plant?
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