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What if the enemy sets up hopsitals and schools on military bases?
The US has hospitals and schools on military bases.
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Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying
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I don't think they did, and anyway you're just trying to redirect to a different question.
No, it's core to the question of whether or not you should feel morally outraged by the targeting mistake.
Which is better, leave the regime alone to continue murdering its own citizens, or run the risk of accidentally bombing a hundred schoolchildren?
It's a pretty classic trolley problem.
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That just means that you agree that there has been a war going on for 50 years which was the OPs point. You are agreeing with the person you responded to.
No, an unilateral aggression is not a war.
I am not sure why you are operating on such a weird definition of "war" that because 1 thing happened 50+ years ago that changes whats happening now.
Just look at whats happening now. Iran is shooting missiles at all sorts of countries all over the place. (not just the US or israel). Its clearly in a war with a lot of groups right now. It is a silly handwave to pretend like a war isn't going on now, because of something that happened 50 years ago.
Its clearly not unilateral, given how many other countries, that are not the US, have had missiles shot at them by Iran.
As a similar example Russia invaded Ukraine. There is a war going on between them and Ukraine. And when there is a war, countries attack each other. "Who started it" doesn't change the fact that a war is happening.
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I am white and non religious, but you write like a racist. > The US did not murder tens of thousands of innocent Iranian civilians around the world No, not just Iranians. You gotta learn the history of your country and spend less time singing anthems
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First, this is completely untrue. Hamas and Hezbollah have been launching missiles at Israel literally nonstop for 20 years. The houithis have and will continue to launch missiles at US assets along the Bab al-Mandab Strait. All of these missiles came directly from the iranian regime. Those groups are an arm of the Iranian government Thats not the point though. There is no reason for either party to respond proportio…
israel is not the US
Most of our politicians seem to think it is, so maybe it was a Freudian slip.
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Your strongest example should be good enough. So far you've got 1) flights between Venezuela and Iran 2) whitehouse.gov. Even if Trump's Whitehouse was a good source and you took it at face value, most of the items in that list are by Iranian proxy, i.e. Iranian intelligence involvement. So by comparison you'd have to include Israel and CIA actions and then it's just a mess to figure out who's worse. But even then, I…
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Not true, but I am skeptical that a one sided account would be adequate. Take care.
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No, an unilateral aggression is not a war.
I am not sure why you are operating on such a weird definition of "war" that because 1 thing happened 50+ years ago that changes whats happening now. Just look at whats happening now. Iran is shooting missiles at all sorts of countries all over the place. (not just the US or israel). Its clearly in a war with a lot of groups right now. It is a silly handwave to pretend like a war isn't going on now, because of someth…
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Or the vast satellite network we run. Pretty easy to see it's school children going in and out of the area.
To be fair, we don't really have the capacity to run satellite surveillance on each and every target we select to engage in a sneak attack. I think sometimes people watch hollywood movies and get the impression that it represents a kind of cataloging of our military capabilities. A demonstration of what we can do to our enemies. With the underlying subtext being "don't mess with us." I just want to gently suggest tha…
That is true for an active war but I don't believe it is true if you have literally months and months to plan an attack. Unless of course there was no plan until just a few days before and you stupidly threw a ton of your advantage right into the trash.
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> I refuse to believe anyone in the decision chain would move forward if they believed kids were going to be killed. If you do - how can you? Why would they? Because they’re openly callous and contemptful of anyone they don’t consider a heritage American? Because the admin has already abused children to lure out parents in their anti immigrant push? And that’s before getting into the Epstein file allegations and if h…
Nobody deliberately produces propaganda for their enemies. The people involved may be evil and stupid, but nobody is that evil and stupid.
we are speaking politicians who make a habit of bluster and liking "shows of force" and are openly contemptful of the lives of those who don't agree with or look like them
some of them believe that it is their religious duty to start this war and make it heinous enough to start ww3 and bring forth the return of jesus christ
I think you are ascribing a level of systems thinking and care about consequences which one cannot simply assume is there
if you were to, say, start with an assumption that some of the actors have the mental patterns and world model of an angsty, self-centered teenager, or younger, then you might draw different conclusions
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American bases in europe have schools on them. Fair targets?
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