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Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by kjuulh »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #191
Tharre wrote: post #129

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And yet, it's exactly what all the AI companies are doing. However much it costs them in server costs and good will seems to be worth less to them then the engineering time to special case the major git web UIs.

I doubt they're actually interested in the git repos. From the shape of the traffic it just looks like a poorly implemented web crawler. By default, a crawler that does not take measures to actively avoid git hosts will get stuck there and spend days trying to exhaust the links of even a single repo.

For me it was specifically crawlers from the large companies, they we're at least announcing themselves as such. They did have different patterns, bytedance was relatively behaved, but some of the less known ones, did have weird patterns of looking at comparisons.

I do think they care about repos, and not just the code, but also how it evolves over time. I can see some use, if marginal in those traits. But if they really wanted that, I'd rather they clone my repos, I'd be totally fine with that. But i guess they'd have to deal with state, and they likely don't want to deal with that. Rather just increase my energy bill ;)

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by [deleted] »

shimman wrote: post #127
noirscape wrote: post #59

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From their FAQ: > If you do not contribute to free/libre software (or if it is limited to your personal homepage) , and we feel like you only abuse Codeberg for storing your commercial projects or media backups, we might get unhappy about that. Emphasis mine. This isn't about if it's technically possible (it certainly is), it's whether or not it's allowed by their platform policies. Their page publishing feature seem…

Seems fair to me, they're a nonprofit that exists in our lived reality and not an abusive monopolist that can literally throw a billion dollars to subsidize loss leaders. All it shows the world is why there needs to be a VAT like tax against US digital services to help drive a public option for developers. There's no reason why the people can't make our own solutions rather than be confined to abusive private US tech…

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Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by jeremyjh »

semiquaver wrote: post #188
enraged_camel wrote: post #117

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That FAQ snippet is insane to me. Maybe it's a cultural thing but I'd never do business with a company that has implicit threats in their ToS based on something so completely arbitrary.

Nonprofit, not a company. as far as I can tell they don’t accept payment for anything so they don’t want your “business”.

Which is why they are not a Github replacement for everyone.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by [deleted] »

embedding-shape wrote: post #16
INTPenis wrote: post #5

Lazy has nothing to do with it, codeberg simply doesn't work. Most of my friends who use codeberg are staunch cloudflare-opponents, but cloudflare is what keeps Gitlab alive. Fact of life is that they're being attacked non-stop, and need some sort of DDoS filter. Codeberg has that anubis thing now I guess? But they still have downtime, and the worst thing ever for me as a developer is having the urge to code and not…

Maybe I'm too old school, but both GitHub and Codeberg for me are asyncronous "I want to send/share the code somehow", not "my active workspace I require to do work". But reading > the worst thing ever for me as a developer is having the urge to code and not being able to access my remote. Makes it seem like GitHub/Codeberg has to be online for you to be able to code, is that really the case? If so, how does that hap…

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Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by mememememememo »

NewJazz wrote: post #224
mememememememo wrote: post #222

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On the other hand you probably don't need to go full k8s and datadog on it. Just host it. Use a PaaS so you don't need to do Linux admin.

I think both of you are misunderstanding what I proposed. You just need a single VM with an ssh server. Literally no web service needed, if all you want to do is host some code remotely.

VM and ssh. Needs linux admin exp. Security updates. Understand how to securely connect from an IP without opening 22 on 0.0.0.0/0

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by cromka »

germandiago wrote: post #190
shimman wrote: post #127

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Seems fair to me, they're a nonprofit that exists in our lived reality and not an abusive monopolist that can literally throw a billion dollars to subsidize loss leaders. All it shows the world is why there needs to be a VAT like tax against US digital services to help drive a public option for developers. There's no reason why the people can't make our own solutions rather than be confined to abusive private US tech…

Adding taxes to things does not help anyone and goes against free choice. A better alternative would be to create the incentives so that companies like these can be born in Europe.

This doesn't work in when a market is run by oligopolies, you have to regulate to restore some sort of normalcy and competition.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by lmm »

tjoff wrote: post #192
radlad wrote: post #180

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Because it doesn't require you to run an HTTP server, FTP server, or install an FTP client.

Finding an HTTP+FTP server was easier than finding github. Your OS probably has a FTP client installed already, but finding another one is easier than finding and most definitely easier than learning git. And if you already knew how to write/make HTML you'd for sure already know all of that too.

> Finding an HTTP+FTP server was easier than finding github.

No it wasn't. Seriously, where?

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