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Get Shit Done: A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven dev system

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Re: Get Shit Done: A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven dev system

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In my experience, when you sell expensive complex systems, customers are very worried about any differences in system behavior as a result of software updates. When you implement a new feature with these tools, how do you convince yourself that existing system behavior remains unchanged? When you have the code in front of you, atleast you can reason about the full system behavior before and after because code is unam…

Appreciate learning from your perspective. I've built, integrated and sold expensive complex systems. They want it working, connected, and reliable. Lots of paths there. Have you built with LLMs? I'm asking because I would refer to things from having something working on a complex code base. Specifications, or inputs in a way are a new code. The added focus on documentation, before and after is a bonus too, and also…

I build with LLMs all the time but I generally don't do vibe coding unless it's something small I don't really care about.

When I look at SpecKit, I see a kind of vibe coding fantasy: "code is no longer king", stop writing "undifferentiated code." There is no code on the site, just a bunch of prompts and commands.

On the other hand, what you are describing above is bringing specs closer to the codebase, while not replacing the code itself. Like I said I have no problems using natural language as a guide (even as a primary guide). I also completely agree that it helps with documentation.

My main point is: if you want to maintain a complex system, you also need to have an accurate description of the system behavior in some kind of formalism.

This kind of description reflects the true system behavior better. It's more helpful when you need to predict the impact of changes and also during debugging.

Re: Get Shit Done: A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven dev system

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I’ve been testing GSD on several of my projects recently. I also looked at GSD-2. Both of these have some interesting features but they are so very slow. Before learning about GSD I built my own framework. That’s so much quicker. It’s on GitHub.

Re: Get Shit Done: A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven dev system

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I’ve been testing GSD on several of my projects recently. I also looked at GSD-2. Both of these have some interesting features but they are so very slow. Before learning about GSD I built my own framework. That’s so much quicker. It’s on GitHub.

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Re: Get Shit Done: A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven dev system

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post #269

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Appreciate learning from your perspective. I've built, integrated and sold expensive complex systems. They want it working, connected, and reliable. Lots of paths there. Have you built with LLMs? I'm asking because I would refer to things from having something working on a complex code base. Specifications, or inputs in a way are a new code. The added focus on documentation, before and after is a bonus too, and also…

I build with LLMs all the time but I generally don't do vibe coding unless it's something small I don't really care about. When I look at SpecKit, I see a kind of vibe coding fantasy: "code is no longer king", stop writing "undifferentiated code." There is no code on the site, just a bunch of prompts and commands. On the other hand, what you are describing above is bringing specs closer to the codebase, while not rep…

Have you used speckit?

Things like speckit are working in the real world, at corporations.

Re: Get Shit Done: A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven dev system

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You spent $25 on 500 LOC?

Well, there were milestones and docs and extra scaffolding that the gsd system produces, but yes. and it didn't seem like progress was going to go any faster.

Update: I finally got more weekly credits. 5% of codex 5.3 high 1 shot the small project just fine. Like... maybe the consumer harness engineering isn't there yet or codex is just cooking.

Re: Get Shit Done: A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven dev system

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I've been using GSD extensively over the past 3 months. I previously used speckit, which I found lacking. GSD consistently gets me 95% of the way there on complex tasks. That's amazing. The last 5% is mostly "manual" testing. We've used GSD to build and launch a SaaS product including an agent-first CMS (whiteboar.it). It's hard to say why GSD worked so much better for us than other similar frameworks, because the un…

Your site whiteboar.it doesn't load properly on visit and on refresh, had to click on one of the footer links for it to somehow load. Terrible first impression. I can email you video if you want.

Re: Get Shit Done: A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven dev system

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post #274

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I build with LLMs all the time but I generally don't do vibe coding unless it's something small I don't really care about. When I look at SpecKit, I see a kind of vibe coding fantasy: "code is no longer king", stop writing "undifferentiated code." There is no code on the site, just a bunch of prompts and commands. On the other hand, what you are describing above is bringing specs closer to the codebase, while not rep…

Have you used speckit? Things like speckit are working in the real world, at corporations.

Working for what? Can you show some complex systems that are built with it? Their site only mentions a kanban board app and a photo album. I can believe it works for that.

Re: Get Shit Done: A meta-prompting, context engineering and spec-driven dev system

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I find that even with opus 4.6, copilot feels like it’s handicapped. I’m not sure if it’s related to memory or what but if I give two tasks to opus4.6 one in CC and one in Copilot, CC is substantially better. I’ve been really enjoying Codex CLI recently though. It seems to do just as well as Opus 4.6, but using the standard GPT 5.4

Opus 4.6 has a 200k context limit in Copilot. Could be the issue.

IIRC the context limit in Copilot is actually 128k, not 200k.

200k is the normal context limit elsewhere.

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