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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

olelele wrote: post #96
ahf8Aithaex7Nai wrote: post #69

I am German. My government does not acknowledge the tragedy that has been unfolding in Gaza since the Hamas attack in October 2023. It’s absurd. Since then, Jewish people in Berlin who were demonstrating alongside Palestinians against the war in Gaza have been beaten down by the German police. In 2021, Esther Bejarano, the last survivor of the Auschwitz Girls’ Orchestra, passed away in Hamburg. Whenever she commented…

I live in DE too, it's terrifying. I didn't realize the extent of the armaments shipped to Israel from Germany until recently. The Israeli navy ships were built in German shipyards and subsidized 30%...

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Post by Agingcoder »

woodpanel wrote: post #190

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If you don’t mind developing, what made you switch stance ? many people never change their minds even when faced with overwhelming evidence , and based on your prior level of support, I’m quite curious about the actual process .

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Post by gravisultra »

km3r wrote: post #245
gravisultra wrote: post #221

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Except those people are dead. Those who ethnically cleansed Arabs (and Jews) during the nakba are dead. Almost everyone who was ethnicity cleansed is now dead. At a certain point you need to recognize that a new generation has been born into this conflict, and with it, a change in circumstances. Attitudes like yours ignore that Israelis who were born there don't have another home to 'return' to. That doesn't mean tha…

Joe Biden is older than the state of Israel and Zionists have continuously committed ethnic cleansing and apartheid since their inception. This is an active and current situation.

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Post by tovej »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #252
Sparkle-san wrote: post #229

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At the same time, there must be a point where general humanity overrides community guidelines.

Why does Gaza get 10x the coverage on HN and other social media well, when what has been happening in Sudan in the same time period is 10x worse? (The 10x coverage number is from algolia hn search, the 10x worse number is from reported killings in the past year)

Because the west (our political and economic system) supports this war, and does so much more loudly than the war in Sudan,which is funded by the UAE, also a US ally, but a far less visible and consequential one. Nobody is visible working the media or politicians to win people over for the UAE every day, unlike Israel.

The aggressor in the Gaza genocide is also pulling the rest of the west into new wars in the region. The war is also deeply connected with our defense and tech industries.

There is plenty of reason to discuss this war.

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Post by gravisultra »

sreejithr wrote: post #236
gravisultra wrote: post #221

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There's another 1000+ "invaders took my shit" issues in the world. Your logic only leads to non-stop fights between everyone

Are any of them doing that with my tax dollars? Is my president starting wars on their behalf? Am I having my rights stripped to stop me from speaking out about any other situation? Nothing impacts Americans like Zionism, it's the #1 problem facing our nation.

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

nxor2 wrote: post #194
busterarm wrote: post #165

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The last time I was in Berlin (2018), I was actually somewhat shocked by the amount of antisemitic graffiti that I saw just about everywhere (especially on lamp posts). Especially given the strictness of the laws against such speech.

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What does that have to do with the subject of this thread at all? Christians are also terrible to gay people, and European societies have only very recently (in the last two to three decades) become somewhat more tolerant.

In the context of Israel-Palestine, this issue is only raised in order to somehow justify Israeli oppression of the Palestinians, a la "They deserve it because they're not as enlightened as we are."

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Post by throw4748t858 »

jll29 wrote: post #124
bhouston wrote: post #49

For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…

A certain amount of politics should/must be tolerated on HN, because you cannot compartmentalize technology, politics and morality. No-one, not even people who say they like technology but do not care about politics, should be able to live their life wihtout knowing that we live in a world where six-year old blind children are murdered with automatic assault rifles. (For the same reason that no-one should be able to…

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Post by spaghetdefects »

abcde666777 wrote: post #277
drivingmenuts wrote: post #267

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If my tax dollars, military and government are killing those two people every second, you better believe that I'm going to do everything in my power to stop it.
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