This boondoggle is going to make Iraq 2003 look well planned.
Iraq was well planned. Since 53 the US plan the first days of the war extremely well. This is the first time a US war has gone this bad, this fast. It usually took months.
US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike
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Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike
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> They are the ones who provided Russia with Shahed drones. Shaheeds are aerodynamic clones of the Israeli Harpy SEAD drone, which in turn were based on the German Dornier DAR of the 1980s. Compared to the loitering anti-radar DAR, the Shaheed is electronically extremely simple and not much more advanced than the WW2 V-1. The fact that Russia started producing Shaheeds reflects more on the poor state of Russian indus…
It's so odd that in modern America weapons being cheap and practical is often seen as a negative. Have to make sure to fork over a couple million per shot to a defence contractor.
Guy is full of it though. Iranian drones are very effective while American Switchblade drones shit the bed completely in Ukraine.
We have US cloning Iranian drones now https://www.euronews.com/2026/03/10/flm-136-americas-cheap-i...
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No man, thats not going to fly. No one ever got anything done by just hoping. Get started now.
Started doing what? Distributing Maoist literature and rifles, or donating to Act Blue, or something in the middle?
Not recommending first point 3 letter agencies! but if we all did something, volunteer, protest, donate, boycott, we would win tomorrow. Boycotting seems particularly effective, would start there.
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#274I don't understand why is everyone at war, I don't understand anything, I really just feel depressed. Don't feel like anyone cares what you think whether you live in US, EU, or somewhere else. It's all bomb this guy, bomb that guy these days. I don't really have anything constructive to add, but hope folks in US realize just how insane all this is. Like can we just not have wars, like pretty please anything but more…
Sending hugs. I don't have solutions, but I feel your pain. I look around and think "where are the adults?"
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#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's so odd that in modern America weapons being cheap and practical is often seen as a negative. Have to make sure to fork over a couple million per shot to a defence contractor.
Guy is full of it though. Iranian drones are very effective while American Switchblade drones shit the bed completely in Ukraine. We have US cloning Iranian drones now https://www.euronews.com/2026/03/10/flm-136-americas-cheap-i...
You're comparing apples, bananas, and pineapples while pretending they're all one thing. Switchblades are extremely effective (albeit expensive) anti-personnel (300 model) and anti-armor (600 model) drones. Shaheds are much larger, cheap, low on capabilities, but attritable used to attack fixed positions (e.g., buildings). These are all very different.
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
These people live on manufacturing crisis after crisis in order to exploit the manic status that they generate. Why worry about how the midterms, if you can create a situation where elections cannot be held at all...? Yes, it sounds crazy right now, but a lot of things sounded similarly crazy 10 years ago, and here we are.
> Why worry about how the midterms, if you can create a situation where elections cannot be held at all...? But they claimed "flawless victory". Both things cannot be true at the same time.
I think you're failing to recognize that we essentially live in a post-Truth world. Two opposite statements can be uttered by the same person on the same day, and it won't matter.
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guy is full of it though. Iranian drones are very effective while American Switchblade drones shit the bed completely in Ukraine. We have US cloning Iranian drones now https://www.euronews.com/2026/03/10/flm-136-americas-cheap-i...
You're comparing apples, bananas, and pineapples while pretending they're all one thing. Switchblades are extremely effective (albeit expensive) anti-personnel (300 model) and anti-armor (600 model) drones. Shaheds are much larger, cheap, low on capabilities, but attritable used to attack fixed positions (e.g., buildings). These are all very different.
That's the point -- maybe the US should have bought apples instead of buying bananas.
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Unfortunately, the new leader's father, wife and children are all dead.
Not all his children, only his daughters. Also his nomination seriously pushes Iran from a theocracy to an elective monarchy imho. Wich, to be clear, is a common slide for theocracies. The Papal ban on children for priests is perhaps the only instance where a theocracy managed to prevent this slide.
> The Papal ban on children for priests is perhaps the only instance where a theocracy managed to prevent this slide.
Pretty impressive effect, given that there is no such ban. There are a number of other rules which can combine to make it look approximately like there is, but there isn't.
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Yes. I think the biggest issues though are: - We likely don't have the assets to move the amount traffic that needs to get through - We probably can't protect them perfectly (we don't have maritime supremacy) so ships will still take damage and that will stop the convoys pretty quickly I suspect the escort ships would be fine though. They can defend themselves. So if we did start them, they wouldn't continue for long…
> I suspect the escort ships would be fine though. They can defend themselves. From underwater drones? Does that technology exist?
I know nothing of the rise of the underwater drone but I highly suspect they are loud and slow and no match for ships designed to look for modern submarines.
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This admin does TACO all the time. A likely scenario is Iran causes economic problems, Trump chickens out and withdraws while simultaneously declaring absolute victory. Any lingering problems he blames on Rubio and hegseth.
TACO isn't enough, Iran must also withdraw, this isn't a given if they feel they have nothing to lose
TACO is fine. Iran have shown the world what will happen if Israel/US try that stunt again. So the sensible approach for them would be to declare themselves the peacemakers and pull back, then invest heavily in better drones, seaborne drones, and semi-autonomous minelaying systems. They know what'll happen next time, and how to respond appropriately.