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Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]

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I mean, it's nowhere close to human intelligence, and it's still not a sentient being, so it cannot be "forced" to do anything, even if we take it at face value. As for being creepy, the things humans do to other actual sentient beings are exponentially more horrifying and creepy than making them play computer games. If the monkeys that Volkswagen tortured with their exhaust gases were made to play Doom, that would b…

> it's still not a sentient being How do you know?

Let's go and assume that the chip is actually sentient (without any proof that it is). Even then, my comment fully stands. Blasting fully sentient beings with exhaust fumes in the face for hours is way worse than forcing them to play computer games. How we treat actual sentient beings is so abhorrent that this (worried about a chip playing Doom) is a misplaced first-world concern imo.

Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]

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For the same reason that we now consider murder, assault and other actions that harm people morally wrong. These have also been a part of life ever since humans or other hominids roamed the earth, we just determined that they are morally wrong later on.

Oh? Are you going to do a citizen's arrest on a wolf for traumatically murdering a deer, thereby violating its right to avoid cruel and unusual punishment?

A wolf has no moral agency and therefore can't be held accountable for its actions. It makes no sense to compare them to humans.

Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]

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This reminds me of a nightmare I had in college one semester when I was taking 18 credit hours and consulting part time. I'd been up for days and had been cramming for a computer architecture exam when I basically passed out. I had this very visceral nightmare where I was a compiler and the C code was coming faster than I could translate to ASM. I kept trying to escape but it was like I was locked into the work in th…

That's the nerdiest dream I ever heard about. I'm a bit jealous I never had one like that (that I remember).

How did you compile? Were you sitting at a desk getting piles of printed code?

Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]

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100% We know that neurons can produce subjective experience. This is the first time in my life that I've felt a scientific avenue of research should shut down.

Animal testing, weapons testing, medical trials, cloning, psychological experiments… had you just never considered them before? Why this?

I spoke inaccurately. I’m an ethical vegan and nonconsensual animal industry and testing is an atrocity, as it would be were we to substitute in humans.

That said, the novelty of this, the unknowns, the mind reels at all the possibilities here and it frankly makes me nauseous.

What hells of existence could we create? I have no doubt that we could create an all encompassing misery that is beyond our comprehension.

Just, truly disgusting to me on a deep level.

Re: Living human brain cells play DOOM on a CL1 [video]

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Because it's not in scope.

Ethical concerns on human experimentation are very much in scope.

For who and what? Not for the authors of this paper. Not every paper of some technical minutia needs a socio/economic analysis.
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