How cute they bought a domain and everything
We Will Not Be Divided
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#272This is why you can't gatekeep AI capabilities. It will eventually be taken from you by force. It's time to open-source everything. Papers, code, weights, financial records. Do all of your research in the open. Run 100% transparent labs so that there's nothing to take from you. Level the playing field for good and bad actors alike, otherwise the bad actors will get their hands on it while everyone else is left behind…
What use are weights without the hardware to run them? That's the gate. Local AI right now is a toy in comparison. Nukes are actually a great example of something also gated by resources. Just having the knowledge/plans isn't good enough.
Scaling has hit a wall and will not get us to AGI. Open-source models are only a couple of months behind closed models, and the same level of capability will require smaller and smaller models in the future. This is where open research can help: make the models smaller ASAP. I think it's likely that we'll be able to get something human-level to run on a single 16GB GPU before the end of the decade.
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#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see how public policy is being "forced" on anyone here? It seems like the system is working as intended: government wants to do X; company A says "I won't allow my product to be used for X"; government refuses to do business with company A. One side thinks the government should be allowed to dictate terms to a private supplier, the other side thinks the private supplier should be allowed to dictate terms to t…
I mean Secretary of War can not act any other way to be honest. It’s just a fucked up situation.
There is no Secretary of War. The name of the Defense Department is set by statute that has not been named regardless of Pete Hegseth's cosplay desires.
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#274I'd prefer to see board (or executive) level signatories over lay employees -- the people who can enforce enterprise policy rather than just voice their opinions -- but this is encouraging to see nonetheless. I can't help but notice that Grok/X is not part of this initiative, though. I realize that frontier models are really coming from Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google, but it feels like someone is going to give in to t…
I wouldn't call senior AI researchers / scientists laypersons. In fact in this sense politicians are laypersons. There are already several comments here showing xAIs involvement. Please save clutter and read before posting.
Re: Reading,
I don't see any xAI names on the list (currently 643) and only Google and OpenAI are selectable company options. And this page on HN is only calling out xAI.
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#275I'd prefer to see board (or executive) level signatories over lay employees -- the people who can enforce enterprise policy rather than just voice their opinions -- but this is encouraging to see nonetheless. I can't help but notice that Grok/X is not part of this initiative, though. I realize that frontier models are really coming from Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google, but it feels like someone is going to give in to t…
> I'd prefer to see board (or executive) level signatories over lay employees -- the people who can enforce enterprise policy rather than just voice their opinions Although it would be nice to have some high-level signees there, I think we shouldn’t minimize the role of lay employees in this matter. Without having someone knowledgeable enough to build and operate them, AI models are worthless to the C-suite.
I just hope that the non-executive co-signers aren’t all fired once Hedseth becomes Acting CEO of Google or OpenAI eventually when this administration commandeers both company in the name of National Security
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
To make 1/10th the salary they're making now?
You seem to have a very ill-informed view of UK/EU salaries in this particular sector; And also: yeah, people take salary hits to go do things they believe in (this is like, the entire premise of the underpaid American startup founder model) - it should come as no surprise that people are willing to forgo pay for reasons other than just building their own business / making themselves personally wealthy.
We're talking about the "brightest scientist and engineers" in the AI sector, you may be underestimating US salaries for the people that's referring to.
And no, working remotely for US companies doesn't count.
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#277The problem with forcing public policy on companies is that companies are ultimately made from individuals, and surely you can’t force public policy down people’s throats. I’m sure nothing good can come out of strong-arming some of the brightest scientists and engineers the U.S. has. Such a waste of talent trying to make them bend over to the government’s wishes… instead of actually fostering innovation in the very c…
> I’m sure nothing good can come out of strong-arming some of the brightest scientists and engineers the U.S. has And where would they emigrate? Russia? China? UAE? :-)
> ... UAE? :-)
At least you are not paying taxes for the things you don't agree on. It's indeed a strange time we are living in.
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#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My understanding is that it’s about What is "it" in your comment? The refusal to sign a contract with Anthropic, or their designation as a supply chain risk?
I was answering “What, then, is this really about?” By “this”, presumably they meant “the dispute”.
The dispute is over the supply chain risk designation though, not over the refusal to sign a contract. If only the latter had happened, we wouldn't be talking here. You're explaining why the department wouldn't want contractors to dictate the terms of usage of their products and services (the latter), but not why this designation would be seen as necessary even in their own eyes (the former).
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#280Among other consequences, if Anthropic ends up being killed it’s going to be just another nail in the coffin of trust in America. Companies who subscribed will find themselves without an important tool because the president went on a rant, and might wonder if it’s safe to depend on other American companies.
When you put it like that, it makes me almost want to wish for Anthropic to die from this. But the blow to the field in general would be huge, and I benefit from their service as well.