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US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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> Europe...where they throw people in jail for social media posts? What do you think when they find out peoples' private convos? When did this happen?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uk-court-jails-man-racist-tweets-s... https://www.dw.com/en/germany-greens-habeck-presses-charges-... https://reclaimthenet.org/germany-online-speech-raids-politi... I'm sure you can find more; those were just the lowest hanging fruit in 2 minutes of searching.

Context on the first one, she wasn't jailed for the post itself. She pleaded guilty (against her own legal advice apparently) to the crime of inciting racial hatred which carries a prison sentence.

There were other people also arrested at the time who did not plead guilty to this and were not charged.

Also she did call for a hotel filled with migrants to be set on fire while people were actively trying to do just that.

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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You've made accusations but have not brought arguments to support that my take on EU leaders and elites being the ones fucking us, our CoL and purchasing power, is wrong. And savings absolutely did eventually get obliterated by excessive Covid money printing, what are you on about?

I've not made any accusations, nor do I think that the elites are not to blame. I said that "money printing" is not the problem here. The reason it's not the problem is because the quantity of money simply reflects savings. By focussing on "money printing", you're missing the actual problems. Arguably, that's the point, since the elite tend to do well when money is considered a scarce commodity. Sure, spending might…

"Currency printing" and inflation are exactly the same thing.

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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How can you be so confrontational and still want people to give you business and data? I really don't envy the diplomats' job at the moment.

US 'diplomats' are campaigns big donors, or primary supports. I've eaten with someone who expected to be named diplomat in Europe because he supported Obama by 2007, but was one-uped by a richer donor post-primary.

The list of ambassadors of the US to Sweden is kind of sad. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ambassadors_of_the_Uni...)

It begins with Benjamin Franklin (well, sort of) and ends with a bunch of campaign contributors (both sides).

Seems like it started some time in the 1990s/2000s and then gradually grew more and more transactional.

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There is plenty of technology companies in Europe. It might not seem like it for the HN crowd, who mostly make a living stringing web libraries together.

Apple is the same size as Europe's tech sector...just Apple. Of the top 50 tech companies on Earth, 3 are European and 30 are American.[1] Europe has a seriously lacking tech scene. The situation is borderline catastrophic.Even just this past week the OpenClaw guy ditched the EU for the US, calling out the EU's infertile business scene[2]. These are exactly the kind of people the EU should be clearing a path for and…

US tech is so dominant because the US was the worlds benevolent superpower.

You've changed, we're adapting accordingly.

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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Again, non dollar investors are flat since start of 2025. This isn't just politicisation (although that's part of it), it's that other markets are doing better than the US for now. This will be a slow process, but the direction seems pretty clear (I fully expect to see a major economy introduce capital controls within the next twenty years).

> it's that other markets are doing better than the US for now. Which? US currently has a rocky status due to Trump's interference, but Trump will pass while the likes of EU and Japan won't be able to fix their structural issues of low birthrates, crazy high debt welfare speeding, etc.

> Which? US currently has a rocky status due to Trump's interference

In non-dollar terms, the US markets have been flat since 2025 (so basically since "liberation day").

> fix their structural issues of low birthrates,

This is a problem basically everywhere. It's definitely worse in Europe than in the US, but the US is on the same trajectory (modulo immigration).

> crazy high debt welfare speeding

Where exactly are you talking about? The US government has been spending more than it takes in for the past decade at least, mostly on entitlements (i.e. welfare spending).

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> You do see some large players like in Canada and Europe, but even they are not similar in size to American pension funds and endowments, let alone other American institutional investors. Look, I haven't dug into this, but if one wants a fair comparison, then you need to account for the size of an economy. If 330mn people need pensions, then you'll obviously see much larger pension funds. If 400mn people across 27 c…

Unfortunately most European countries don't pension funds. It's a pity... (Anyway to put another argument: the US can outflow. Why should people invest to a Trumpland?)

> Unfortunately most European countries don't pension funds. It's a pity...

Many Europeans prefer bank deposits to investment in markets, that's true. I assure you though, there are lots and lots of pension funds in Europe, as well as many, many insurance companies who represent similar capital profiles.

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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Usually, when you want to have people not know who built what, you use an LLC. THEN the LLC hires the subcontractors in stages without them knowing about each other. Youd take about 5 years, but itd be about as secure as you could be if you lost trust in soceity.

It’s a trope in survivalist fiction. The contractors hired to build a bunker are often the first to attempt a breach once a crisis hits.

Yes, everyone who works on the bunker will know about it; and all these billionaires are trying to build their survivalist camps but dont actually consider any of the easily/practically broken parts of society they implicitly rely on.

Realistically, society we know it won't survive if it dwindles to beneath a couple of millions.

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Like an abusive spouse. 'No, you can't leave me, you need me.' Actually, we don't. We used to have a good relationship and you lit it on fire. Bye, US.

Republicans grew up in a world where they can do anything - voter suppression, gerrymandering, steal a presidency or a supreme court seat and nothing happens. Well some women get hit once and never come back.

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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Like an abusive spouse. 'No, you can't leave me, you need me.' Actually, we don't. We used to have a good relationship and you lit it on fire. Bye, US.

Republicans grew up in a world where they can do anything - voter suppression, gerrymandering, steal a presidency or a supreme court seat and nothing happens. Well some women get hit once and never come back.

This sums it up so well.
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