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Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by superb_dev »

bibleguided wrote: post #268
solatic wrote: post #48

No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…

You’re right that a priest can’t (and shouldn’t) dump private pastoral context into a prompt. But context doesn’t have to mean identifiable confession details. I’m building BibleGuided, and one thing we’re adding is a church feature where congregants can opt in to sharing prayer themes, and leaders can see aggregated and anonymized trends over time rather than identities. That’s enough to shape a homily toward what p…

How are you dealing with the Pope saying priests shouldn’t use your product?

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

whatever1 wrote: post #96
vasco wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Vatican has really smart people in there, regardless of how you feel about the whole thing. I recommend anyone interested in the topic to give a read to: https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docu... "ANTIQUA ET NOVA Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence" I was quite impressed at how much they "get it".

I read the other day that the Roman Empire never fell. Its emperor is the Pope. Which is an exaggeration, but makes you thinking. This institution still has a ton of power.

THE EMPIRE NEVER ENDED - PKD

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

accidentallfact wrote: post #162
wonnage wrote: post #123

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Eh, it’s more like they attached themselves to the Romans for marketing purposes. Same with the Holy Roman Empire

There is no reason to doubt that Jesus lived in the Roman Empire, once you believe that he lived at all. And there is no reason whatsoever to doubt that the church formed in Rome. All known world was Rome at the time. From Britain to Morocco to the Middle East. (Islam only happened in the middle ages, it isn't that old.)

It wasn't even true that all the world known to the Romans was Rome.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by foobarbecue »

Brendinooo wrote: post #251
lo_zamoyski wrote: post #223

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I assume this was intended as a joke, even if it is one that doesn’t land? Because it’s not clear what this could mean otherwise.

No, "faith" is actually an integral component of "the Christian faith". Go read the first part of Acts 4, where a section closes with: "Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus." So...yes! We do believe in a God that can empower average people to speak in above-average ways.

use of "crux" is a little punny here too

but yeah faiths are into faith

shrug

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by RobotToaster »

fainpul wrote: post #175
h33t-l4x0r wrote: post #100

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Well maybe they just need to start recording confessionals. Just imagine what Gemini 3.1 could do with 1M tokens of that stuff.

Gemini 3.1 – I don't remember that verse. Is that from the old testament?

iam tempus pariendi venerat et ecce gemini in utero repperti sunt - Gen 25:24

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by p0w3n3d »

dhruv3006 wrote: post #11

Btw pope is a math phd.

I think you're mistaken

  where he earned a Bachelor of Science (BS) degree in mathematics in 1977
and later

  His doctoral thesis was a legal study of the role of Augustinian local priors.[64]
source:wikipedia

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

solatic wrote: post #48

No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…

Pretty sure there are books of homilies.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by viraptor »

rationalist wrote: post #267
lotsofpulp wrote: post #224

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I don’t understand why you’re downvoted. “No priest would ever break rules” is such a strong and ridiculous claim that I thought solatic was trolling.

It's alluding to something off-topic, with a hint of "edgy-ness"

Let me be more clear then. Not only will there be many priests sharing private information about their local congregation, there will also be priests who continue to directly abuse people in their communities. Sharing private information is extremely mild in comparison.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

bibleguided wrote: post #268
solatic wrote: post #48

No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…

You’re right that a priest can’t (and shouldn’t) dump private pastoral context into a prompt. But context doesn’t have to mean identifiable confession details. I’m building BibleGuided, and one thing we’re adding is a church feature where congregants can opt in to sharing prayer themes, and leaders can see aggregated and anonymized trends over time rather than identities. That’s enough to shape a homily toward what p…

Exactly.

A priest could use AI for a homily dealing with drug addiction, without specifying "Bob in row 3 is a methhead"

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