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Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by tempaccount420 » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:50 AM UTC

akssassin907 wrote: post #258

hsuduebc2 wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a serious problem. I think the only durable solution is legislation that requires these companies to provide access to your data, or at least a way to export or transfer it, even after an account ban. Otherwise, if they delete your account for any reason, even for a legitimate policy violation, they can effectively cut you off from information you have built up and stored over years. In Apple’s case, an accou…

Fine, restrict the OpenClaw usage. Fine, cancel the AI Pro subscription. But nuking Gmail, Google Photos, Drive — years of irreplaceable personal data — as punishment for how you routed tokens? That's not enforcement, that's collective punishment. No bank closes your checking account because you used your debit card at a competitor's ATM. The offense and the penalty are in completely different weight classes. That's…

Looks like someone gave their OpenClaw a link to this thread.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by echelon » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:50 AM UTC

avaer wrote: post #253

adithyassekhar wrote: post #222

Edit: I have misread some of the comments here, he didn't lose access to his whole account and data just the antigravity part. I should've done my due diligence, get out of bed and spent more time thinking instead of emotionally reacting. Guess the rage machine got me as well. Damn. I think this thread might be hijacked by ai bros. The main point still stands, google is part of a duopoly that runs the world. You can'…

This is why companies get broken up. Usually they'll try to hide the monopoly/tying to avoid this. What's interesting is that they don't seem to be trying. It's not the same thing but it does remind me of [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor... .

Google needs to be dismantled. A lot of us on HN have been calling for this for years now.

Can we start saying it in unison to legislators and the press? Please?

If you're in the EU, do your part too.

This company taxes the URL bar. It owns 92% of them and turns trademarks they don't own into forced bidding wars. There's no way to access any brand without paying Google extortion fees.

This company removed AdBlock.

This company controls 50% of mobile - the most important device category and devices we own and pay for - and now they're removing our ability to use them as we please. More taxation, more Google services, every app and search through the Google troll toll. You can't even order from a restaurant anymore without one of these things and Google lords over it.

They own your digital life. They own infrastructure. They own discovery. They own every touch point.

They are too big.

Anthropic and OpenAI are having to pay out the nose for 60% of users to even access them, meanwhile Google sings "lalalala" and forced their AI products onto users at no cost.

Break them up now.

Do it horizontally, not vertically: instead of splitting off Chrome and Search and YouTube, create Google A, Google B, Google C ... Make them split all the same pieces and make them all compete with each other.

That is fair for the consumer. That is fair for competition.

That is the most capitalistic friendly thing to do. Because right now Google is an invasive species in every market destroying the entire competitive ecology.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by marcus_holmes » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:52 AM UTC

carshodev wrote: post #144

jacquesm wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the problem is that the discounted rate exists in the first place. Essentially these are unfair business practices, product cross subsidization to ensure market dominance. See also: Microsoft and a whole bunch of other companies. And once they've got their monopoly position there is inevitably the rug-pull. I wonder if some CPO somewhere actually had the guts to put a 'rug pull' item on the product roadmap.

It's not unfair its how every business works. When your product is new or not yet good enough and you want people to try it you give them discounts, or if you want to drive traffic to your service you also do the same. Even traditional businesses do this with coupons. Is it unfair that Costco sells chickens for under cost because it drives usage to them? Companies like Uber did use massive funding and price subsidiza…

I'd agree with you if this was some new SaaS just opening its doors.

But Google are banning entire accounts, with years, even decades, of personal history, photos, even phone accounts and app development projects.

They very easily could just negate the anti-gravity access, which would be much, much more reasonable.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by HardCodedBias » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:52 AM UTC

NewsaHackO wrote: post #264

adithyassekhar wrote: post #222

Edit: I have misread some of the comments here, he didn't lose access to his whole account and data just the antigravity part. I should've done my due diligence, get out of bed and spent more time thinking instead of emotionally reacting. Guess the rage machine got me as well. Damn. I think this thread might be hijacked by ai bros. The main point still stands, google is part of a duopoly that runs the world. You can'…

Oh now this is the new pivot? >Can you begin to imagine losing access to all your emails, accounts, every photo you ever took? Because what they didn't like how you used one unrelated product tied to your account? What are you talking about? He didn't lose access to Google, in fact, he is using his Google account to make the post. He lost access to the service they are claiming that he is misusing.

If this had happened it would be scandalous. Unreal, really.

Luckily, it sounds like reality was his Gemini account was banned. Much more reasonable.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by hsuduebc2 » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:52 AM UTC

tempaccount420 wrote: post #271

akssassin907 wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fine, restrict the OpenClaw usage. Fine, cancel the AI Pro subscription. But nuking Gmail, Google Photos, Drive — years of irreplaceable personal data — as punishment for how you routed tokens? That's not enforcement, that's collective punishment. No bank closes your checking account because you used your debit card at a competitor's ATM. The offense and the penalty are in completely different weight classes. That's…

Looks like someone gave their OpenClaw a link to this thread.

I have the same feeling.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:53 AM UTC

akssassin907 wrote: post #258

hsuduebc2 wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a serious problem. I think the only durable solution is legislation that requires these companies to provide access to your data, or at least a way to export or transfer it, even after an account ban. Otherwise, if they delete your account for any reason, even for a legitimate policy violation, they can effectively cut you off from information you have built up and stored over years. In Apple’s case, an accou…

Fine, restrict the OpenClaw usage. Fine, cancel the AI Pro subscription. But nuking Gmail, Google Photos, Drive — years of irreplaceable personal data — as punishment for how you routed tokens? That's not enforcement, that's collective punishment. No bank closes your checking account because you used your debit card at a competitor's ATM. The offense and the penalty are in completely different weight classes. That's…

Source that that is what is happening? Because everything I've seen looks like that the use of that one service is blocked, not the whole account.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by ninjagoo » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:53 AM UTC

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #26

bethekind wrote: post #15

This is draconian. > Our investigation specifically confirmed that the use of your credentials within the third-party tool “open claw” for testing purposes constitutes a violation of the Google Terms of Service [1]. This is due to the use of Antigravity servers to power a non-Antigravity product. I must be transparent and inform you that, in accordance with Google’s policy, this situation falls under a zero tolerance…

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Terms of Service that span multiple pages of legalese and require an attorney to parse, for something that is either 'free' or a few $ per month, and can result in loss of service across multiple product lines, AND has binding lopsided arbitration requirements, is not only draconian, it is unconscionable.

Look at how messed up this is: Google Attorneys, paid hundreds of $/hour, spending hours and hours putting together these "Terms of Service" on one side; and a simple consumer on the other side, making a few $ per hour, not trained in legalese, expected to make a decision on a service that is supposed to cost a few $ a month, and if you make an honest mistake, can cause you a lot of trouble in your life.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by adithyassekhar » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:53 AM UTC

NewsaHackO wrote: post #264

adithyassekhar wrote: post #222

Edit: I have misread some of the comments here, he didn't lose access to his whole account and data just the antigravity part. I should've done my due diligence, get out of bed and spent more time thinking instead of emotionally reacting. Guess the rage machine got me as well. Damn. I think this thread might be hijacked by ai bros. The main point still stands, google is part of a duopoly that runs the world. You can'…

Oh now this is the new pivot? >Can you begin to imagine losing access to all your emails, accounts, every photo you ever took? Because what they didn't like how you used one unrelated product tied to your account? What are you talking about? He didn't lose access to Google, in fact, he is using his Google account to make the post. He lost access to the service they are claiming that he is misusing.

I based my comment from one other comment posted here. Should've done some basic thinking. Clarified in my original comment.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by tempaccount420 » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:54 AM UTC

hsaliak wrote: post #245

Google's Pro service (no idea about ultra and I have no intention to find out) is riddled with 429s. They have generous quotas for sure, but they really give you very low priority. For example, I still dont have access to Gemini 3.1 from that endpoint. It's completely uncharacteristic of Google. I analyzed 6k HTTP requests on the Pro account, 23% of those were hit with 429s. (Though not from Gemini-CLI, but from my o…

I'm guessing at least 50% of the "users" of Antigravity are actually OpenCode users exploiting the oauth and endpoint. Must be infuriating to them if they're subsidizing it.

The OpenCode plugin (8.7k stars btw!) even advertises "Multi-account support — add multiple Google accounts, auto-rotates when rate-limited"[1]

[1] https://github.com/NoeFabris/opencode-antigravity-auth/blob/...

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Post by jcgrillo » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 2:54 AM UTC

dmix wrote: post #187

dev1ycan wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every subscription's profitability stands on people forgetting to unsubscribe, how is this surprising?

You must not work in the SaaS business if you think that

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but I'll respond as if it isn't. Having worked my entire career to date in the SaaS business, it is well known in some verticals that a large portion of revenue comes from companies that literally do not know they have purchased your product. And when you have a large customer like that, people are very careful to walk quietly and not do anything to notify them. I've seen it happen quite a few times.