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Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by Nasrudith »

Manuel_D wrote: post #107
fzeroracer wrote: post #13

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This has nothing to do with the actual problem, which is Flock itself. The fact that Flock controls all of the cameras, all of the data and said data is easily accessible means police and the state have access to information that they should only get with a warrant. A business having a camera storing video data that's completely local isn't an issue. A business having a camera which is connected to every other busine…

Since when are warrants required for footage of people in public? Does a red light camera need a judge's warrant before it snaps a photos of a car running the light?

When it violates reasonable expectations of privacy. Being in public isn't a get out of jail free card. I mean, I could put up a camera right outside your house. It is 'public streets' monitoring your coming to your house is the sort of thing that does require a warrant.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by [deleted] »

Cipater wrote: post #102
grensley wrote: post #39

Here's a list of Flock's investors: - Andreessen Horowitz - Greenoaks Capital - Bedrock Capital - Meritech Capital - Matrix Partners - Sands Capital - Founders Fund - Kleiner Perkins - Tiger Global - Y Combinator

Y Combinator's CEO promotes and praises them almost every day.

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by RickJWagner »

sidrag22 wrote: post #207
RickJWagner wrote: post #204

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its just impossible to not read this as. "they used her lawsuit to set an example, so it worked". One can be true and the other can be untrue... Piracy never ended, and it was not a reversion to the old ways post lawsuit, the market evolved based on the pushback from the public. I have no idea how you are drawing your conclusion that because this lawsuit exists, it was the final nail in the piracy coffin, when piracy…

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer »

andwur wrote: post #93
zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #76

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I played paintball in Australia and I just had to sign a normal waiver about them not being responsible for injuries

Ownership of paintball guns is regulated under the state-level firearms act in most (all?) states and territories. You can use them under the direct supervision of the licensed owner, but it's still quite restrictive. If you were to take one and shoot at cameras on the street it would vandalism plus firearms offences, most of which start at inversion of innocence, massive fines and move pretty quickly into prison tim…

That's crazy

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Post by lhopki01 »

monero-xmr wrote: post #217
morkalork wrote: post #210

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From the outside, it looks like the US's society and culture fosters an unusually large criminal class compared to other western countries? If people had access to education, healthcare, jobs that aren't shipped overseas, minimum wage that wasn't laughable, etc, there wouldn't be so much problems? Arguing over severity of punishment while ignoring systemic issues is silly.

Non-developed countries do not have functional law enforcement and they are highly corrupt, so any statistics outside of developed countries should be ignored. For developed countries, none but America have such high levels of immigration nor the racial diversity America has. It is much easier to convince society to promote high-trust empathetic solutions when society is racially homogenous and shares cultural backgr…

How are you measuring that? There are plenty of developed countries with a higher immigrant share like Switzerland and Australia. If you're taking about visible minorities then Canada has a higher proportion of the population.

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

Nasrudith wrote: post #270
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #144

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What is a felony anymore when the felony is "submitted bad paperwork"?

And what was the paperwork about you disingenuous asshole?

What was it about? By the time the Democrats were crowing that he was a felon, no one eve remembered. Did Trump see or sign this paperwork? Didn't much matter to anyone. If he saw it or signed it, would he have known what it was? Did he read it first? Probably not.

With a tiny little wall of text, you might even manage to tell me why you think the paperwork was so horrible that he should be in prison for it, I suppose. But no one would read your wall of text, because if it takes you a wall of text to explain it, they figure it's all bullshit anyway. And this is why he won in 2024, and why his successor will win in 2028, and likely in 2032. It's why this November is going to shock you even though there's virtually no room left for surprises. Just remember, it's like 96% certain Hillary's going to beat him if you need to fantasize about a better time...

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by tanjtanjtanj »

lozf wrote: post #263
lazide wrote: post #177

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There has been a pattern in the UK of destroying speed cameras for the same reasons - including in some cases throwing an old car tire around the pole and setting it on fire. Seems to be getting more popular [ https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/antiulez-campaigners-v... ].

Those are not "speed" cameras, they're to enforce daily payment (or fines) for driving in "Ultra Low Emissions Zone" areas in non-compliant vehicles. The area covers all 32 London Boroughs, around 1,500 km² (580 square miles), - affecting approximately 9 Million people.

Destroying speed cameras, especially the tire method, in the UK far predates ULEZ.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by phendrenad2 »

culi wrote: post #118
monero-xmr wrote: post #59

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The vast majority of crimes are committed by a small percentage of people. The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders. But having video evidence is a powerful tool for a motivated prosecutor to actually take criminals off the streets

It's wild that you think the problem with the US is too low of an incarceration rate. 25% of all prisoners in the world are in the US

Or maybe repeat offenders can be put in jail, and other people could be let out. Just a random thought that occurred to me.

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Post by phendrenad2 »

sli wrote: post #56

This will start happening to Ring cameras as well soon if it's not already.

Yeah right. Destroying cameras owned by a HOA in a wealthy area is one thing, destroying people's private cameras is another. A good way to get in a fight, though, if you're into that.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by phendrenad2 »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #235
diego_moita wrote: post #30

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Because they're easy to steal.

Who is buying?

Soon, nobody, because they're stolen too often! Or rather, it'll reach some natural equilibrium.
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