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I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Can you expand on the Scaleway comment? Would be interested in the details. Also aren't their data centres all in the Paris area? Do they have any geo-redundancy?

paris, amsterdam, warsaw and I think they are launching or have launched recently in other places

There are currently teasing additional region in Milan, IT.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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> I wonder if there will ever come a day where the average HN user actually understands how normal people use technology. Well, I wouldn't say I don't understand it. If someone uses their smartphone as a hammer, regularly break it and regularly buy a new smartphone, I understand what they are doing. I just don't understand why they are doing it, I guess? In this case, the post says that it's a conversion killer. So p…

Both available choices "share the information with Google" for most people. The majority of email account creations use a Gmail or Google Workspace address, so Google gets the information either way, and in Europe most use Android so can't sign in with Apple.

Again that's off topic. I'm not talking about the fact that people choose the Google SSO instead of username/password.

I'm talking about the fact that people choose to not use the service if there is no SSO.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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> Your users expect "Sign in with Google" and "Sign in with Apple." You can add email/password and passkeys, but removing social logins entirely is a conversion killer. I know this is true, but I genuinely don't understand it. I want email/password and passkey, I will always go out of my way to avoid "Sign in with ...". I just don't get why people love this.

Heard of haveibeenpwned? You'll end up there, eventually.

- Complains about age verification because it is "not private"

- Uses Google SSO to sign in everywhere

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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HP makes them, so does Dell. They cost a bit extra, but essentially the whole Federal government runs on nothing else. The difference between EU and US is that it's possible to make all components in the US, using US equipment, and so some companies do because it commands a pretty decent premium. It's not even that hard since most components (e.g. reference motherboard designs) are still designed and actually built i…

> The difference between EU and US is that it's possible to make all components in the US, using US equipment False. ASML is in the EU.

The most technologically critical component of ASML's EUV lithography machines (the EUV light source) is designed, developed, and manufactured in California by Cymer.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Thank you for this. I'm in Europe with an established SaaS that's been running in production for years and I've converged on a similar stack (OVHCloud instead of Hetzner). However, I've realized you can stay sovereign and independent in any jurisdiction (not just Europe) just by simplifying your stack and running a few baremetal servers in-house. Just buy a few Mac Studios and run them in-house with power supply back…

You say no VMs and are using Apple hardware. Are you running this all directly on macOS?

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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What do American colleagues think when they read about this trend among Europeans to abandon their platforms?

Competition is great.

I wouldn't call it competition, given that here we are fleeing towards less advanced services for purely geopolitical reasons.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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On that subject, I'd be curious to see any computer that's not mostly made in Asia.

HP makes them, so does Dell. They cost a bit extra, but essentially the whole Federal government runs on nothing else. The difference between EU and US is that it's possible to make all components in the US, using US equipment, and so some companies do because it commands a pretty decent premium. It's not even that hard since most components (e.g. reference motherboard designs) are still designed and actually built i…

Can you point to the models that are entirely made in the USA?

I’m having trouble searching for this - but all the top results seem to be SEO or AI slop, so perhaps I’m just not finding them.

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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Competition is great.

I wouldn't call it competition, given that here we are fleeing towards less advanced services for purely geopolitical reasons.

Ah, now you’ve captured the F/OSS zeitgeist!

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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You'll still have your e-mail address exposed, which you may not want if it is to some random porn site. Moreover, password managers do not work if you use multiple devices for log in, which most people actually do.

I use my password manager across multiple devices daily. Apparently it has not been working without me noticing it?

... And how do you access the passwords that password manager manages?

Re: I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure

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post #275

Thank you for this. I'm in Europe with an established SaaS that's been running in production for years and I've converged on a similar stack (OVHCloud instead of Hetzner). However, I've realized you can stay sovereign and independent in any jurisdiction (not just Europe) just by simplifying your stack and running a few baremetal servers in-house. Just buy a few Mac Studios and run them in-house with power supply back…

You say no VMs and are using Apple hardware. Are you running this all directly on macOS?

Yes, except for one HAProxy server. The setup I described isn't fully in production yet, but my testing confirms it works. We've been running for years on one single baremetal server on Hetzner/OVH though. And macOS makes sense for one of our main workloads (headless browser agents). Much better than browser-in-linux-docker for many reasons.
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