Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway • Hacker News Board

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by TitaRusell » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 12:41 PM UTC

throw310822 wrote: post #222

maxbond wrote: post #197

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Well he certainly wouldn't but the engineers working for Tesla might, with a probability that is very low but greater than 0. It's much higher (but still low) in 1 year, 5 years, 10 years. Tomorrow is a metanym for the future. But to be very clear I not only don't think they will but I don't think that they think they will, or they wouldn't be shifting focus to Optimus. I'm not invested in Tesla except for my exposur…

The question of whether they will solve FSD is not very relevant if everyone ends up solving it roughly at the same time.

Ha exactly. Do Tesla shareholders think the rest of the auto industry are in a coma?

Besides what does FSD even mean? Austin is not Amsterdam.

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by danaris » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 12:45 PM UTC

rowanG077 wrote: post #210

danaris wrote: post #186

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There's zero chance that Musk will have suddenly "solved" FSD in a day, a week, or a year. He's not an engineer; he's a money man, and a grifter. That's why people keep giving Tesla money: because Musk has fooled so many people into believing he's this amazing engineer, who could, possibly, "solve" FSD overnight—and, moreover, has gotten them to buy into it so deeply that they have tied their identity into that belie…

You really thought the poster meant that Elon Musk personally went and implemented FSD? Just for your information, Musk is also not personally assembling every Tesla vehicle.

Have you seen the way some people talk about Musk around here?

There are clearly plenty of posters who, to all appearances, genuinely believe that he is the entirety of Tesla's R&D department.

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by raisedbyninjas » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 12:48 PM UTC

NalNezumi wrote: post #261

Betelbuddy wrote: post #30

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This is a quote from Tesla latest earnings call, at 04 min.. "Because we're really moving into a future that is based on autonomy and so if you're interested in buying a Model S and X, now would be the time to order it, because we expect to wind down S and X production in next quarter and basically stop production of Model S and X next quarter. We'll obviously continue to support the Model S and X programs for as lon…

Can someone enlighten me WHO the customer to those million Optimus robots are? I've been working in robotics for years now, I've talked with ex Optimus developers, FigureAI devs, some Japanese humanoid devs, researchers, talked to people in conferences and no one. Absolutely no one I've met take Optimus seriously. If a lab is considering buying a humanoid they'll go to China. Hell, even MIT professors that have been…

The same customers as grok. In the future where humanoid robots see some level deployment, there might be some people that need their robot to make CSAM and say the n-word.

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by Yossarrian22 » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 12:50 PM UTC

Neil44 wrote: post #178

pseingatl wrote: post #2

BYD is a formidable competitor and a great product for less.

It's strange to me that some Americans will cheer on Chinese companies over Tesla, even overlooking those companies questionable labour practices. (I don't know if you're American)

Because distortions of the free market make us all poorer

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by Yossarrian22 » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 12:52 PM UTC

dudefeliciano wrote: post #245

3rodents wrote: post #173

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My predictions: 1. Tesla does not dominate robots or autonomous driving, it fades away 2. Tesla’s stock price exceeds $10T after it is shoe-horned into being a part of SpaceXAIBoringTesla Musk is almost certainly too big to fail at this point. The cult of personality and SpaceX give him a lot of room for financial engineering, he doesn’t need Tesla.

if democrats win midterms and then 2028 elections, they will be able to come back in full force and retaliate at least against the most egregious of Trump supporters. Will Musk survive in that scenario?

If King Arthur returns from Avalon should former British colonies be worried about Pax Brittanica?

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by Sammi » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 12:56 PM UTC

maxdo wrote: post #145

I watched his interview recently to save you time, and the suffer : His Vision — Hate It, Laugh at It, or Love It: AI has solved (or is solving) coding in 2026. Robots are doing drunken panda moves, yet FSD is insanely good — running on MacBook-grade hardware. A few other companies are running large-scale self-driving pilots. Cars are already being heavily built using specialized robots today. At this point, it’s stu…

As a software developer I only really started to understand how divorced from reality Elon is when he started talking about software development. That was a sinking feeling: "Oh he doesn't actually know something I don't know. He's just keeping the music playing, so he doesn't have to sit down on the chairs that don't exist. Fuck."

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by TitaRusell » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 1:00 PM UTC

danaris wrote: post #191

kuerbel wrote: post #144

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They could add EATR ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energetically_Autonomous_Tacti... ) technology to run it and then we have gone almost full horizon zero dawn.

So long as they don't give them the capability to consume arbitrary biomass to fuel themselves, I think we're safe from a Faro Swarm situation for the foreseeable future...

That was some serious vibe coding.

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by mapontosevenths » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 1:01 PM UTC

danaris wrote: post #186

maxbond wrote: post #151

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The market discounts future returns but it is unclear and shifting what proportion of those returns are from the operations of the company in the market it sells products in and what proportion comes from the operations of traders in financial markets. More plainly, traders discount returns from buybacks and dividends financed by the operations of the company and returns from selling their shares to "greater fools".…

There's zero chance that Musk will have suddenly "solved" FSD in a day, a week, or a year. He's not an engineer; he's a money man, and a grifter. That's why people keep giving Tesla money: because Musk has fooled so many people into believing he's this amazing engineer, who could, possibly, "solve" FSD overnight—and, moreover, has gotten them to buy into it so deeply that they have tied their identity into that belie…

> he's this amazing engineer, who could, possibly, "solve" FSD overnight

Even if thay were true many people hate Elon now. Enough that they will pass on any technology he is the only purveyor of.

After he celebrated letting children starve (USAID) by dancing on stage with a chainsaw many people decided to never buy any Musk product for any reason. Now there are the Epstein ties.

Worse, many people who dont care about politics at all won't get involved, because Musk is an unstable drug user and its not wise to entangle yourself in his business affairs.

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by MagicMoonlight » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 1:05 PM UTC

They just don’t have any good cars now. They want top of the line money, for meh.

When they first came out they were revolutionary. But they don’t even have a speedometer, let alone a HUD. It’s embarrassing. They’re being so cheap.

Re: Tesla Sales Down 55% UK, 58% Spain, 59% Germany, 81% Netherlands, 93% Norway

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Post by rowanG077 » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 1:07 PM UTC

danaris wrote: post #272

rowanG077 wrote: post #210

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You really thought the poster meant that Elon Musk personally went and implemented FSD? Just for your information, Musk is also not personally assembling every Tesla vehicle.

Have you seen the way some people talk about Musk around here? There are clearly plenty of posters who, to all appearances, genuinely believe that he is the entirety of Tesla's R&D department.

Well if there are plenty of posters then it should be easy to give me 5 comments of different people where it's clear they believe Tesla R&D is a solo Elon Musk operation.

I'm not holding my breath though.