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OpenAI should build Slack

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Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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You could also look at it as: in order for a Slack competitor to compete with Slack's network effects, the new program will need to offer an easy way to extend chat workspaces with external collaborators. It's not impossible, but it does make Slack's moat explicitly clear.

The problem here is that companies artificially limit integrations, so it's impossible to exchange messages between different providers like how email works.

We really need some legal requirements similar to "right to repair" for machinery. We need "right to integrate" for software. I don't know how you'd pull it off, or how much support for integrations would be "enough" but it would allow competitors to cross these network effect lock-in moats that large players are able to build.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Google should build slack. Its a travesty how incredibly good their google workspace suite of tools is, and then google chat is what sits between it all. If it wasn't for the fact that google bungled an internal communication tool so badly, slack wouldn't even have to exist. For the life of me I cannot understand why they after a decade, has let slack and teams become basically a duopoly in this space. Source: I use…

I don’t understand why Gemini is not better integrated into Google Docs. I can’t transfer results into docs, it can’t manipulate existing docs. I can’t even rule out that I’m doing something wrong somehow. But it’s just frustrating to see that the teams inside of Google don’t work well together.

Gemini isn’t even an expert in Google’s own products. Ask about a feature from within one of their own products and it’s as dumb as any other LLM.

Why wouldn’t you ground it in knowledge and your product?

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Zulip is awesome \m/

I recently started looking into Zulip and while I can see that it is a complete product its mobile UI is so cluttered and funky I don’t understand how anyone could use it. The desktop web UI seems OK but try this on your phone: https://zulip.com/new/demo/ They have the iOS Safari problem with the keyboard and body scroll, tiny icons, super busy UI. I was hoping to help some folks move off Discord to something else an…

That UI is surprisingly ugly! Windows XP vibes but not in a good way

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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I don't think we should cheer on one of the largest companies in the world to build a product to get them even more enterprise stranglehold. The praise for this monopoly is misdirected. Every single one of you, unless you're a significant GOOG shareholder, should be wanting for antitrust breakup of Google. They're putting pressure on your wages and other investments, and they're contributing to a ceiling for other st…

I dont get this idea of breaking big companies up is inherently a good thing. As a non-American, I think the breakup of AT&T/Bell Labs was a mistake. The world is yet to create a lab as innovative as Bell Labs. Current Google only comes even close with their far out projects(that dont directly make money) such as their quantum computing/deepmind/boston dynamics(when google had them) Besides, if one does break up goog…

> The world is yet to create a lab as innovative as Bell Labs.

That was entirely accidental. There's absolutely no guarantee that any given monopoly will produce anything remotely like Bell Labs, and I don't believe that a monopoly was required to do what Bell Labs did.

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a lot of knowledge lives in our slack history.

If you can’t retrieve the knowledge easily it doesn’t exist. Basically impossible to find anything in slack older than a week.

pretty crazy, given what it stands for: "Searchable Log of All Conversation and Knowledge"

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Only because they use Office and Teams is bundled, everyone using it that's heard of Slack wants to be using Slack instead.

Honestly prefer teams over slack. Slack is good at text threads, while I'd still choose Teams for calls and meetings.

That's fair, in my last org we used Teams for meetings despite Slack for general chat etc.

Partly I'd say that's due to MS giving it subpar experience in O365 calendar/mail/outlook - you can't join a call directly, best you can really do is link to the channel as location.

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