Please don’t forget to upload your driver’s license and ID for validations to keep the children safe!
Very much this. We need to keep children safe from those predators that the government are trying their best to protect!!!
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#272Just out of curiosity. Are there any companies today that are seen the way Google used to be seen, as a generally “good” corporation/companies that are also a important player? Maybe Mozilla Foundation?
By the way, perhaps your point of view on Google has evolved but on the question of the way Google is seen today by American consumers it is still right up there with Kleenex and Jesus. Furthermore, pretty much everyone, in America and abroad, views business as both more ethical and more effective than governments and non-governmental organizations.
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#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
I listed asylum seekers and visa holders in detention but they are definitely grabbing citizens too. Usually they do not hold them for very long. This happened at the Target I shop at: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/ice-immigrat... Two teenagers just doing their jobs, dogpiled by roughly four adult men, beaten up and released hours later. One of them was just dropped off at the Walmart down the stree…
> Usually they do not hold them for very long. I am confused here. If the law grants ICE (or whatever is the umbrella agency that ICE operates under) the power to detain to determine legality of the status, ICE does it, and then releases people back, the law works as intended, no? I am confused what is the difference between this, and police who can detain a “tall man in black short and red hat” and 10 hours later (o…
Replace "tall man in black short and red hat who may have committed a violent crime" with "anyone who looks like they may speak Spanish even if no crime has been committed," even if they have a valid government ID card and we arrive at the problem with ICE.
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#274So I don't think I actually have a problem with businesses handing over their customer data if there is a valid warrant or subpoena. That's the system working as intended. The main crux of the problem here is that the DHS has been granted a wide berth by congress to issue administrative subpoenas - i.e. not reviewed by a real judge and not directed at criminals. In "good" times this made investigations run smoothly.…
> I know we instinctively want to frame this as a privacy problem, but the real problem Both can be true at the same time.
It's a privacy problem because permitting things like this can lead to abuses.
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#275So I don't think I actually have a problem with businesses handing over their customer data if there is a valid warrant or subpoena. That's the system working as intended. The main crux of the problem here is that the DHS has been granted a wide berth by congress to issue administrative subpoenas - i.e. not reviewed by a real judge and not directed at criminals. In "good" times this made investigations run smoothly.…
> I know we instinctively want to frame this as a privacy problem
It absolutely is a privacy problem. If that information was in your house, the 4th amendment would apply and they'd have to show up with a real judicial warrant, so you'd know what was happening.
Even if that's the "system working as intended" (intended by who exactly? I'm sure Peter Thiel loves it), anyone who cares at all about their own privacy should be using providers outside of US jurisdiction, because the US government does not, in practice, protect its citizens against unreasonable search and seizure as described in the Constitution.
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see how what has been described here as "the system works as intended". A free state should not be able to sniff after people for made up reasons.
Re-read the first few sentences of his post. > if there is a valid warrant or subpoena
It still shouldn't be secret. An ordinary valid warrant or subpoena wouldn't allow them to secretly search your house.
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about the consequences for the people that let in millions of illegal aliens with criminal records that harmed and killed Americans? Should those politicians be charged as accessories?
are the millions of illegal aliens with criminal records in the room with us now? Can you show us on the doll where the millions of illegal aliens with criminal records touched you?
But Fox News said...
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Administrative subpoenas" have always been bullshit that mostly rely on there being no penalty for companies that hand over user information to anyone with a badge and then justify it with a five-hundred-page TOS document.
Google, among most other tech companies, deny portions of administrative warrants. Here's a story about someone who was stressed out about their notification by Google (spoiler, Google decided to deny the government's request) https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/02/03/hom... edit: It appears that this outcome is an outlier and most admin warrants are honored. It is unfortunate to see the Washington Pos…
> It is unfortunate to see the Washington Post decline in reliability like this.
In case you haven't been paying attention, Bezos has been all the way up Trump's ass for years now, and this is not in any way a coincidence.
A few highlights:
* The Post's refusal to endorse a presidential candidate in 2024
* The Melania documentary/bribe
* The recent decimation of the Post's staff
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#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A free state should not be able to sniff after people for made up reasons. Right, exactly -- a free state should not do that, yet the system is working as intended, therefore we do not live in a free state. It's time to accept that.
Why would we accept that instead of changing it?
My interpretation of ModernMech's comment is that acceptance is a pre-requisite of changing it.
ie. if you didn't accept it, then you wouldn't feel the need to change it.
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#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
That guy had been overstaying a tourist visa for something like 17 years, and only started the green card process in April 2025. I don't think people who have overstayed tourist visas for 17 years should be eligible for any kind of permanent residency in the US, and would support laws making it impossible for someone in his position to get a green card or a work permit. The fact that he is a white Irishman is legally…
Only because we made the "overstaying" an illegal offense. But there's no reason to -- if the guy was paying taxes the whole time, and never committed a serious crime, then we should be happy to welcome such guys, ramping up our GDP. Don't forget that the paperwork costs a lot, if one has children, can get close to $10k. Look at Spain -- instead of deporting "illegals", they just made them "legals" (those without a c…
If he was paying taxes during that time period he was also committing a felony.