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Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by Sharlin »

OtomotO wrote: post #171
slyzmud wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know you are joking but I'm sure that there is at least one director or VP inside GitHub pushing a new salvation project that must use AI to solve all the problems, when actually the most likely reason is engineers are drawing in tech debt.

Better to replace management by AI. Computers can produce spreadsheets even better and they can warm the air around you even faster.

I mean, the strengths of LLMs were always a much better match for the management than for technical work:

* writing endless reports and executive summaries

* pretending to know things that they don't

* not complaining if you present their ideas as yours

* sycophancy and fawning behavior towards superiors

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by mrweasel »

burningChrome wrote: post #58
porise wrote: post #8

Take it away from Microsoft. Not sure how this isn't an antitrust issue anyway.

At its core antitrust cases are about monopolies and how companies use anti-competitive conduct to maintain their monopoly. Github isn't the only source control software in the market. Unless they're doing something obvious and nefarious, its doubtful the justice department will step in when you can simply choose one of many others like Bitbucket, Sourcetree, Gitlab, SVN, CVS, Fossil, DARCS, or Bazaar. There's just t…

Picking something other than Github may also have the positive effect that you're less of a target for drive by AI patches.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by Aperocky »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #259
munk-a wrote: post #186

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Upper management in Microsoft has been bragging about their high percentage of AI generated code lately - and in the meantime we've had several disastrous Windows 11 updates with the potential to brick your machine and a slew of outages at github. I'm sure it might be something else but it's clear part of their current technical approach is utterly broken.

Utterly broken - perhaps, but apparently that's not exclusive with being highly profitable, so why should they care?

For the time being. Does anyone want Windows 11 for real?

The inertia is not permanent.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by 12_throw_away »

MYEUHD wrote: post #127
Kelteseth wrote: post #85

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Gitlab.com. CI is super nice and easily self hostable.

I heard that it's hard to maintain self-hosted Gitlab instances

Nah at a small scale it's totally fine, and IME pretty pain-free after you've got it running. The biggest pain points are A) It's slow, B) between auth, storage, and CI runners, you have a lot of unavoidable configuration to do, and C) it has a lot of different features so the docs are MASSIVE.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by plagiarist »

misnome wrote: post #137
Kelteseth wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gitlab.com. CI is super nice and easily self hostable.

And their status history isn't much better. It's just that they are so much smaller it's not Big News.

For me it is their history of high-impact easily avoidable security bugs. I have no idea why "send a reset password link to an address from an unauthenticated source" was possible at all.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by collingreen »

hnthrowaway0315 wrote: post #134
arccy wrote: post #119

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nah, they're just showing us how to vibecode your way to success

If the $$$ they saved > the $$$ they lose then yeah it is a success. Business only cares about $$$.

Definitely. The devil is in the details though since it's so damn hard to quantify the $$$ lost when you have a large opinionated customer base that holds tremendous grudges. Doubly so when it's a subscription service with effectively unlimited lifetime for happy accounts.

Business by spreadsheet is super hard for this reason - if you try to charge the maximum you can before people get angry and leave then you're a tiny outage/issue/controversy/breach from tipping over the wrong side of that line.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by that_guy_iain »

porise wrote: post #57
that_guy_iain wrote: post #40

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Not sure how having downtime is an anti-competition issue. I'm also not sure how you think you can take things away from people? Do you think someone just gave them GitHub and then take it away? Who are you expecting to take it away? Also, does your system have 100% uptime?

Companies used to be forced to sell parts of their business when antitrust was involved. The issue isn't the downtime, they should never have been allowed to own this in the first place. There was just a recent case with Google to decide if they would have to sell Chrome. Of course the Judge ruled no. Nowadays you can have a monopoly in 20 adjacent industries and the courts will say it's fine.

You've been banging on about this for a while, I think this is my third time responding to one of your accounts. There is no antitrust issue, how are they messing with other competitors? You never back up your reasoning. How many accounts do you have active since I bet all the downvotes are from you?
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