It never even occurred to me that sudo was something people had to maintain. it's always just been part of linux
And Linux is maintained by who?
Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
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Re: Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
#272Reading the release history[1]. I'm kind of shocked that sudo gets active development and monthly releases. I would have thought that something this old and venerated would have been "done" long ago. 1: https://www.sudo.ws/releases/devel/
It seems to have features I was not aware of. I would not have guessed that it contains anything networking-related.
I really prefer the design of run0.
Re: Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
#273I think the rise of the open-source redistributor groupie has been an interesting cultural revolution. I wonder if it will persist. Even 10 years ago, the idea of Free As In Speech dominated the idea of Free Software. Today, the greatest enthusiasm on Hacker News and Reddit is for something like Meta's Llama license (which cannot be used by people or corps with sufficient numbers of users). It certainly seems like so…
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Re: Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whenever people say that MIT or GPL licenses are a good idea I point out projects like this. Only humans should have freedom zero. Corporations and robots must pay.
You can demand payment but it doesn't mean you'll get paid. These days companies will clone your work instead of paying.
Releasing open source software and then “demanding payment” goes against everything about open source.
If someone expects to be paid for the use of their software, releasing it as open source is not what they want.
If a maintainer of a software project starts trying to demand payment or threatening to change license terms, it’s a reasonable response for a company to fork it or build their own solution.
Re: Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Done" software is a myth they tell to young developers so that they can sleep easy at night.
There's a difference between software that's "done" (it never needs updates, ever) and software that's done (it only needs maintenance for security and platform churn). The former is extremely rare; platform churn alone will usually demand updates, even if your code is otherwise airtight. Forces generally beyond your access will demand that your code is able to conform to platform standards. The demand this places ca…
> MacOS is fairly constant
Except when they killed all 32bit games a few years ago with Catalina.
Re: Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like we need an open source index fund where you can make one payment that goes into a pool of money which is invested into the top 1000 open source projects.
What are the top 1000 oben source projects?
Well, there's systemd, systemd-resolved, journald, GNOME, Wayland, systemd-homed, systemd-boot,...
Re: Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think they even see it as their responsibility, more, "If he wanted money, he should have charged for his software".
"Your 3 months sudo trial is expiring. Would you like to sign up for sudo-pro (best for hobbiest and small teams), sudo-business (up to 100 users) or sudo-enterprise (reach out for a quote)"
Nightmarish, isn't it?
But that's how the higher-ups at places like IBM and Oracle see the world.
And these people are free to roam the streets unfettered. Hardly seems right.
Re: Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a difference between software that's "done" (it never needs updates, ever) and software that's done (it only needs maintenance for security and platform churn). The former is extremely rare; platform churn alone will usually demand updates, even if your code is otherwise airtight. Forces generally beyond your access will demand that your code is able to conform to platform standards. The demand this places ca…
> MacOS is fairly constant Except when they killed all 32bit games a few years ago with Catalina.
I think that GP meant that MacOS has a constant nonzero rate of platform churn. I might be wrong though!
Re: Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
#279https://github.com/sponsors/sudo-project Can donate there. My bank account is basically empty but I will contribute a few bucks.
Contributed immediately. Thanks to sudo-rs: this stolen valor project made me want to financially support the original author.
how does the metaphor of stolen valor (in my understanding: claiming accolades or military credentials/decorations that one never received) apply to that project?
I don’t know anything about the history here; it’s a genuine question.
Re: Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Done" software is a myth they tell to young developers so that they can sleep easy at night.
There's a difference between software that's "done" (it never needs updates, ever) and software that's done (it only needs maintenance for security and platform churn). The former is extremely rare; platform churn alone will usually demand updates, even if your code is otherwise airtight. Forces generally beyond your access will demand that your code is able to conform to platform standards. The demand this places ca…
I’m not sure truly ‘done’ exists on systems that interact with other systems unless it’s an entirely closed loop.
I reckon closed-loop systems can be ‘done’ every bit as much as hardware systems can be if the design, debugging and implementation are disciplined enough.