I think they are also using AI to name everything because no human on this planet would come up with Microsoft 365 Copilot.
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Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#272Microsoft have a goal that states they want to get to " 1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code. " You can't do that if you write the code yourself. That means they'll always be chasing the best model. Right now, that's Opus 4.5.
That is what the AI said:
1. Classic Coding (Traditional Development) In the classic model, developers are the primary authors of every line.
Production Volume: A senior developer typically writes between 10,000 and 20,000 lines of code (LOC) per year.
Workflow: Manual logic construction, syntax memorization, and human-led debugging using tools like VS Code or JetBrains IDEs.
Focus: Writing the implementation details. Success is measured by the quality and maintainability of the hand-written code.
Production Volume: Developers using full AI integration have seen a 14x increase in code output (e.g., from ~24k lines to over 810k lines in a single year).
Work Distribution: Major tech leaders like AWS report that AI now generates up to 75% of their production code.
The New Bottleneck: Developers now spend roughly 70% of their time reviewing AI-generated code rather than writing it.
Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#273Crazy to think that Github Copilot was the first mainstream AI coding tool. It had all the hype and momentum in the world, and Microsoft decided to do...absolutely nothing with it.
I use Copilot in VSCode at work, and it's pretty effective. You can choose from quite a few models, and it has the agentic editing you'd expect from an IDE based AI development tool. I don't know if it does things like browser integration because I don't do frontend work. It's definitely improved over the last 6 months. There's also all the other Copilot branded stuff which has varying use. The web based chat is OK,…
Have you tried any other popular agentic coding tool? Like Claude Code, Cursor, Opencode, or Codex or something else? Because I've used all of these and Copilot in anger in the last three months, and Copilot wasn't even in the same league as the others. Comparatively it just plain sucked. Slow and gave poor results. All the others I mentioned are withing spitting distance of each other from what I can tell from my usage.
Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#274Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…
>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet
"Microsoft Re-Designs the iPod Packaging" (2006)
Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet
Exactly. In the 50 years history of Microsoft, Office ( Year ) was perhaps the best they did. Nadella might have fixed a few things, but Microsoft still have massive room for improvement in many areas.
You mean Microsoft® Office™
Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#276I don’t understand how their various Copilot tools are so bad. Are they using a proprietary model instead of ChatGPT or Claude?
Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can't speak for copilot but Gemini cli is unbelievably bad compared to Gemini web. CC has some magic secret sauce and I'm not sure what it is. My company pays for both too, I keep coming back to Claude all-round
Claude Code is one of a very few AI tools where I genuinely think the people at the company who build it use it all the time.
I know they do because of how painfully awful the Claude web/Claude desktops uxui is, as well as performance.
Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#278Kinda reminds of the time Microsoft used git internally but was pushing Team Foundation Server.
There is an entire generation of devs that TFS ruined for version control. I've had to essentially rehabilitate folks and heal old TFS wounds to get them properly using git (so many copies of repos on their filesystem...).
Sounds like they would have loved git worktrees.
Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fuck is there a way to have that degree and not be clueless and toxic to your colleagues and users.
It all comes from "if you can't measure it you can't improve it". The job of management is to improve things, and that means they need to measure it and in turn look for measures. When working on an assembly line there are lots of things to measure and improve, and improving many of those things have shown great value. They want to expand that value into engineering and so are looking for something they can measure.…
There’s this really awful MBA tool called a “9-box”…
Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
#280Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…
>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet
Many will never know the joy of trying to search for it back in the days when punctuation was ignored (C# says hello too)
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