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Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Well if its done in a dumb-as-a-fuck hostile style that whole world complaints for years , such effort and PM is utter failure and their CV should be tarnished with this for next 2 decades. And its up to us as a IT community to make it happen. They harmed massively their own company, and failed at the most core reason why they were hired - add long term value to the company. Its a bit the equivalent of architect buil…

I saw a presentation awhile back which included the slide (roughly): "Give a PM a numerical goal, and they will burn the company down to hit it." As someone who has worked in big tech and seen decision-making in action, I 100% believe it. This is how incentives are structured.

Human paperclip optimizers...

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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The dumbification of Control Panel to Settings was one of the factors for me. I'm not sure if Control Panel is still available, hidden away somewhere, but I've since moved on to pastures that only seen to get greener when compared with the Microsoft Windows paddock. They're somehow finding new shades of brown on a monthly basis.

It's the movement, a vast Zeitgeist of evil, away from categorizing and organization, and towards Search. I hate it. I was looking at how to fix the dark screen that resulted from turning on HDR in Windows 11, which some games need at the OS level for some reason, and Search was never giving me the Exact Keyword you need. Search is always a guessing game, and you end up Googling the answer, it's so incredibly ineffic…

I mean specifically making a poorly organized Settings and just adding a text search box at the top to avoid having to organize it easily.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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There’s no way to set up Windows to respect your privacy at this point. Windows 10 was the turning point on this. They charge you for the software, and charge you again by stealing your data. They even used to have a whitepaper explaining how any MS employee can remotely pull any file from any windows machine with managerial approval.

So you are claiming that all AI in any form would be MS-retrievable?

I’m saying they’re not going to ship privacy preserving AI.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Apple's not great, but Microsoft is worse.

Nothing about Apple's naming schemes seems immediately rage-inducing. Sure, their stuff is bland, and I think it's stupid how people refer to doing things "on iPhone" instead of "on an iPhone", but otherwise Apple's products are mostly descriptive. Garage Band has to do with music, Pages is a word processor, iCloud is a cloud storage thing, etc. But even the Labrador licking his own balls that someone else mentioned…

The power creep on their flagship device names is pretty bullshit though. Pretty soon we'll have the "iPhone 20 ultra pro max++ sublime retina unlimited"

Every generation the base iPhone becomes a lower and lower tier product.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Should I get an M4 Max MacBook Pro, or an M4 Pro Macbook Pro? Or a Mac Pro? Or skip the computer altogether and get an iPhone Pro Max? I mean, c'mon. They are deliberately trying to be confusing.

Use the real product names and that problem largely goes away: MacBook Pro (M5) MacBook Pro (M4 Ultra) MacBook Pro (M4 Pro) Mac Pro (M2 Ultra) Once you remember the general rule that Pro costs/does more than the base model, it’s really not that hard to keep track of.

What about max (or is there no "max" in macbook land)? Is ultra better or worse than pro?

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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> The question Microsoft should ask themselves is why they built them in the first place It seems like everyone except MS themselves knows why: they got tunnel vision from Azure and AI, and completely forgot about what actually made them successful. Hell they even burnt down one of the most famous brands in the world, MS Office, for zero reason other than to try and whitewash their Copilot name. The marketing guys wh…

I don't know about Windows, but it will take a lot more enshittification than that to burn down the Office brand. Excel alone carries it to dominance.

Pretty soon Excel will be renamed to "copilot for spreadsheets", word will be "copilot for documents" etc.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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None of those sound like the tooling I'm talking about. I'm thinking of libraries like ML.NET, training and inference, compared to Python its nowhere near, a lot of .NET projects wind up calling out to Python itself. I don't see why Microsoft couldn't do more in this area, if they're truly betting on AI they're betting on it the wrong way. What pure C# inference tooling is out there? I know they have a solid ONNX eng…

You have the great Windows ML experience. :) Guess why Microsoft hired Guido and other Python devs, who gets the whole Python experience on VSCode, or introduced Python as better option to Excel, in detriment of .NET addins. People forget that nowadays .NET is only yet another language on DevDiv, check the developer blogs for all languages. That was F# failure as well, trying to cater to data science for its relevanc…

I'm never touching Windows again to be fair. They'd have to decouple it from their marketing departments sins. I see way more AI libraries in Rust that are as capable as Python libraries than I see for .NET for example. The diffusers library has a Rust equivalent, is there a true .NET equivalent?

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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It's in the actual currency. It's easy to have a large denomination of dollars if the currency is collapsing due to hyperinflation.

I certainly hope you are not suggesting that USA is experiencing hyperinflation...?

As if.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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I can’t believe I’m going to type this, but I miss the Ballmer days. Current leadership has somehow made this company even worse.

I miss the Bill Gates and Steve Jobs days. At least there were positive improvements to Windows and Mac in those days.
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