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Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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I work on Teams (I know, I know... please don't hit me, it's not my fault) 1. I don't speak authoritatively and 2. I don't have knowledge of the whole product - there's always a rogue team here and there doing stuff. We've had that feature turned on at MSFT for some time now. It does not allow your manager to see that you're at Starbucks, at home, on the shitter or anything like that. There's a new toggle in the cale…

Thanks for showing up to provide some corrective information. I know it can feel like opening a box of yellowjackets, but one of the best things about the HN community is when someone with first-hand knowledge is willing to share what they know. Edit: from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46827312 , it does sound like the feature isn't really opt-in for end users though?

AI written with zero sources, links, anything, shouldn't be acceptable, especially to HNers. Makes me sad. :(

Apologies you both have to deal with this.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#272

I work on Teams (I know, I know... please don't hit me, it's not my fault) 1. I don't speak authoritatively and 2. I don't have knowledge of the whole product - there's always a rogue team here and there doing stuff. We've had that feature turned on at MSFT for some time now. It does not allow your manager to see that you're at Starbucks, at home, on the shitter or anything like that. There's a new toggle in the cale…

But the data exists such that anyone with enough leverage could see that?

Kind of like how Microsoft provides services to ICC judges until they won’t?

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#273

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Great. Can you share how exactly someone's location is being derived?

> ...what building they're in... Given that not every device has built in GPS, it sounds like the Network Team is going to have to provide the locations of APs for that to work. Curious how Teams will resolve that. If you're on your phone using a VPN back to your home network will it know or show you as at home? What happens if you have multiple APs at home?

Yeah, you need to add the BSSID of all APs. VPN does not matter the OS will have to provide access to this info.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#274

I work on Teams (I know, I know... please don't hit me, it's not my fault) 1. I don't speak authoritatively and 2. I don't have knowledge of the whole product - there's always a rogue team here and there doing stuff. We've had that feature turned on at MSFT for some time now. It does not allow your manager to see that you're at Starbucks, at home, on the shitter or anything like that. There's a new toggle in the cale…

Great. Can you share how exactly someone's location is being derived?

The tenant admin configures that mapping. They can also configure whether the data can be exposed to users outside of the organization. There’s no magic here.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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post #65

Society feels like a prison and the warden is watching.

This is exactly the end state we'll end up in unless the technology sector starts saying no to implementing the tools of petty tyranny. Hint: Bossware and most things the MBA's drool over. Unfortunately, there's enough people out there that are fine with implementing said features if it means they get a paycheck; even if it ruins the world for everyone else.

All defectors

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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post #75

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Should be restricted to only "in office" vs "not in office", no showing the wifi name. Also, the lack of wired network support seems odd.

IMO that's probably how the feature will work, I haven't seen any actual non-speculation/rage bait evidence to the contrary.

Yeah it's used to list where your coworkers might be, it's a part of Microsoft Places, which is like a hotdesk thing. People have an insane response to this, and yet i assume they use their company provided laptop everyday.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#277

Can I kill this via pihole somehow? My wife uses teams. This is a sick “tool” that will be wielded asymmetrically by middle management to fire people

I have started to use Teams in Firefox browser since last two weeks. Uninstalled app in laptop and phone.

And phone dns always goes through pihole. Could this work in your case?

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#279

Microsoft is really dropping everything lately. First the Win11 disaster; this one is even making it in the heads of german news sites such as here: https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000306516/windows-11-is... "Windows ist kaputt" = "Windows is broken" And now 365 tracking people. So the whole company seems to now just be about sniffing after people. In the past it alleged at the least to enable folks, say, Win95…

While you are not wrong on Microsoft, this Teams feature is not a problem - clowns who only read headlines are.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#280

I work on Teams (I know, I know... please don't hit me, it's not my fault) 1. I don't speak authoritatively and 2. I don't have knowledge of the whole product - there's always a rogue team here and there doing stuff. We've had that feature turned on at MSFT for some time now. It does not allow your manager to see that you're at Starbucks, at home, on the shitter or anything like that. There's a new toggle in the cale…

What happens if I only use the Teams in Firefox browser? Can a browser also identify SSID?
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