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Re: Prism

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post #47

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I wonder if there's a way to tax the frivolous submissions. There could be a submission fee that would be fully reimbursed iff the submission is actually accepted for publication. If you're confident in your paper, you can think of it as a deposit. If you're spamming journals, you're just going to pay for the wasted time. Maybe you get reimbursed for half as long as there are no obvious hallucinations.

Better yet, make a "polymarket" for papers where people can bet on which paper can make it, and rely on "expertise arbitrage" to punish spams.

Now accepting money from slop companies to verify their slop as notslop

Re: Prism

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post #179

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Soon, poor people will talk to a LLM, rich people will get human medical care.

I mean I'm currently getting "expensive" medical care and the doctors are still all using AI scribes. I wouldn't assume there would be a gap in anything other than perception. I imagine doctors that cater to the fuck you rich will just put more effort into hiding it. No one, at all levels, wants to do notes.

My experience has been that the transcriptions are way more detailed and correct when doctors use these scribes.

You could argue that not writing down everything provides a greater signal-noise ratio. Fair enough, but if something seemingly inconsequential is not noted and something is missed, that could worsen medical care.

I'm not sure how this affects malpractice claims - It's now easier to prove (with notes) that the doc "knew" about some detail that would otherwise not have been note down.

Re: Prism

#273
post #32

From my perspective as a journal editor and a reviewer these kinds of tools cause many more problems than they actually solve. They make the 'barrier to entry' for submitting vibed semi-plausible journal articles much lower, which I understand some may see as a benefit. The drawback is that scientific editors and reviewers provide those services for free, as a community benefit. One example was a submission their und…

Why not filter out papers from people without credentials? And also publicly call them out and register them somewhere, so that their submission rights can be revoked by other journals and conferences after "vibe writing". These acts just must have consequences so people stop doing them. You can use AI if you are doing it well but if you are wasting everyones time you should just be excluded from the discourse altoge…

What do credentials have to do with good science? There are already some roadblocks to publish science in important–sounding journals, but it's important for the neutrality of the scientific process that in principle anyone can do it.

Re: Prism

#274

Good idea to name this after the spy program that Snowden talked about.

I thought this was about the Prism Database ORM. Or that was Prisma?

Re: Prism

#275
Adding

% !TEX program = lualatex

to the top of your document allows you to switch LaTeX engine. This is required for recent accessibility standards compliance (support for tagging and \DocumentMetadata). Compilation takes a bit longer though, but works fine, unlike with Overleaf where using the lualatex engine does not work in the free version.

Re: Prism

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post #200

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They don't care. Musk stole a chunk Heinlein's literary legacy with Grok (which unlike prism wasn't a common word) and noone bat an eye.

> Grok (which unlike prism wasn't a common word) "Grok" was a term used in my undergrad CS courses in the early 2010s. It's been a pretty common word in computing for a while now, though the current generation of young programmers and computer scientists seem not to know it as readily, so it may be falling out of fashion in those spaces.

He is referencing the book Stranger in a Strange Land, written in 1961.

Re: Prism

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I'm curious if you'd be in favor of other forms of academic gate keeping as well. Isn't the lower quality overall of submissions (an ongoing trend with a history far pre-dating LLMs) an issue? Isn't the real question (that you are alluding to) whether there should be limits to the democratization of science? If my tone seems acerbic, it is only because I sense cognitive dissonance between the anti-AI stance common am…

> whether there should be limits to the democratization of science? That is an interesting philosophical question, but not the question we are confronted with. A lot of LLM assisted materials have the _signals_ of novel research without having its _substance_.

LLMs are tools. In the hands of adept, conscientious researchers, they can only be a boon, assisting in the crafting of the research manuscript. In the hands of less adept, less conscientious users, they accelerate the production of slop. The poster I'm responding to seems to be noting an asymmetry- those who find the most use from these tools could be inept researchers who have no business submitting their work. This is because experienced researchers find writing up their results relatively easy.

To me, this is directly relevant to the issue of democratization of science. There seems to be a tool that is inconveniently resulting in the "wrong" people accelerating their output. That is essentially the complaint here rather than any criticism inherent to LLMs (e.g. water/resource usage, environmental impact, psychological/societal harm, etc.). The post I'm responding to could have been written if LLMs were replaced by any technology that resulted in less experienced or capable researchers disproportionately being able to submit to journals.

To be concrete, let's just take one of prism's capabilities- the ability to "turn whiteboard equations or diagrams directly into LaTeX". What a monstrous thing to give to the masses! Before, those uneducated cranks would send word docs to journals with poorly typeset equations, making it a trivial matter to filter them into the trash bin. Now, they can polish everything up and pass off their chicken scratch as respectable work. Ideally, we'd put up enough obstacles so that only those who should publish will publish.

Re: Prism

#279

I know many people have negative opinions about this. I'd also like to share what I saw. Since GPT-4o became a thing, everyone who submits academic papers I know in my non-english speaking country (N > 5) has been writing papers in our native language and translating them with GPT-4o exclusively . It has been the norm for quite a while. If hallucination is such a serious problem it has been so for one and half a year…

Translation is something Large Language Models are inherently pretty good at, without controversy, even though the output still should be independently verified. It's a language task and they are language models.

Of course. Transformers were originally invented for Google Translate.

Re: Prism

#280

Adding % !TEX program = lualatex to the top of your document allows you to switch LaTeX engine. This is required for recent accessibility standards compliance (support for tagging and \DocumentMetadata). Compilation takes a bit longer though, but works fine, unlike with Overleaf where using the lualatex engine does not work in the free version.

How on earth is that pronounced?
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