> You're not talking to an AI coder anymore. You're talking to a team lead. The lead doesn't write code - it plans, delegates, and synthesizes. Even 90 word tweets are now too long for these people to write without using AI, apparently.
Claude Code's new hidden feature: Swarms
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Re: Claude Code's new hidden feature: Swarms
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every time I read something like this, it strikes me as an attempt to convince people that various people-management memes are still going to be relevant moving forward. Or even that they currently work when used on humans today. The reality is these roles don't even work in human organizations today. Classic "job_description == bottom_of_funnel_competency" fallacy. If they make the LLMs more productive, it is probab…
I suppose it’s could end up being an LLM variant of Conway’s Law. “Organizations are constrained to produce designs which are copies of the communication structures of these organizations.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law
Re: Claude Code's new hidden feature: Swarms
#273This feels like massively overengineering something very simple. Agents are stateless functions with a limited heap (context window) that degrades in quality as it fills. Once you see it that way, the whole swarm paradigm is just function scoping and memory management cosplaying as an org chart: Agent = function Role = scope constraints Context window = local memory Shared state file = global state Orchestration = co…
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#274I didn't sleep enough, or slept for 10 years. This thread seems surreal, I see multiple flow repositories mentioned with 10k+ stars. Comprehensive doc. genAI image as a logo. Can anyone show me one product these things have accomplished please ? I used some frontier LLM yesterday to see if it could finally produce simple cascading style sheet fix. After a few dozens attempts and steering, a couple of hours and half a…
Re: Claude Code's new hidden feature: Swarms
#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting about the level of detail. I’ve noticed that myself but I haven’t done much to address it yet. I can imagine some ideas (ask it for more detail, ask it to make a smaller plan and add detail to that) but I’m curious if you have any experience improving those plans.
I’m trying to solve this myself by implementing a whole planner workflow at https://github.com/solatis/claude-config Effectively it tries to resolve all ambiguities by making all decisions explicit — if the source cannot be resolved to documentation or anything, it’s asked to the user. It also tries to capture all “invisible knowledge” by documenting everything, so that all these decisions and business context are ca…
My workflow with it is usually brainstorm -> lfg (planning) -> clear context -> lfg (giving it the produced plan to work on) -> compound if it didn’t on its own.
[^1]: https://github.com/EveryInc/compound-engineering-plugin
Re: Claude Code's new hidden feature: Swarms
#276I didn't sleep enough, or slept for 10 years. This thread seems surreal, I see multiple flow repositories mentioned with 10k+ stars. Comprehensive doc. genAI image as a logo. Can anyone show me one product these things have accomplished please ? I used some frontier LLM yesterday to see if it could finally produce simple cascading style sheet fix. After a few dozens attempts and steering, a couple of hours and half a…
You are clearly behind, no offense but what do you do on HN
Re: Claude Code's new hidden feature: Swarms
#277I've done plenty of vibe coding even though I know how to program but I mostly work with a single agent through its CLI. The progress is really good and more importantly, I can follow it. I can read the output, test it, and understand what changed and why. I don't see much upside in swarms. But I do see the downside which is losing the ability to keep the whole system in my head. The codebase starts growing in direct…
Re: Claude Code's new hidden feature: Swarms
#278Re: Claude Code's new hidden feature: Swarms
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every time I read something like this, it strikes me as an attempt to convince people that various people-management memes are still going to be relevant moving forward. Or even that they currently work when used on humans today. The reality is these roles don't even work in human organizations today. Classic "job_description == bottom_of_funnel_competency" fallacy. If they make the LLMs more productive, it is probab…
I think it's just the opposite, as LLMs feed on human language. "You are a scrum master." Automatically encodes most of what the LLM needs to know. Trying to describe the same role in a prompt would be a lot more difficult. Maybe a different separation of roles would be more efficient in theory, but an LLM understands "you are a scrum master" from the get go, while "you are a zhydgry bhnklorts" needs explanation.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.10054
Key findings:
-Tested 162 personas across 6 types of interpersonal relationships and 8 domains of expertise, with 4 LLM families and 2,410 factual questions
-Adding personas in system prompts does not improve model performance compared to the control setting where no persona is added
-Automatically identifying the best persona is challenging, with predictions often performing no better than random selection
-While adding a persona may lead to performance gains in certain settings, the effect of each persona can be largely random
Fun piece of trivia - the paper was originally designed to prove the opposite result (that personas make LLMs better). They revised it when they saw the data completely disproved their original hypothesis.
Re: Claude Code's new hidden feature: Swarms
#280I didn't sleep enough, or slept for 10 years. This thread seems surreal, I see multiple flow repositories mentioned with 10k+ stars. Comprehensive doc. genAI image as a logo. Can anyone show me one product these things have accomplished please ? I used some frontier LLM yesterday to see if it could finally produce simple cascading style sheet fix. After a few dozens attempts and steering, a couple of hours and half a…
You are clearly behind, no offense but what do you do on HN
This person is on HN for the same reasons as I am, presumably: reading about hacker stuff. Entering prompts in black boxes and watching them work so you have more time to scratch your balls is not hacker stuff, it's the latest abomination of late stage capitalism and this forum is, sadly, falling for it.