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Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Post by skybrian »

dpatterbee wrote: post #258
skybrian wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was very weird. In the post where he was arguably "shilling," he seems to have signposted pretty well that it was dumb, but he will take the money they offered: > $GAS is not equity and does not give you any ownership interest in Gas Town or my work. This post is for informational purposes only and is not a solicitation or recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any token. Crypto markets are volatile and speculativ…

I'm fairly certain those disclaimers were added after he got some pushback from the original post.

One of them clearly was (marked "Edit: "). I don't know about the others.

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Post by skybrian »

cannonpr wrote: post #270
skybrian wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was very weird. In the post where he was arguably "shilling," he seems to have signposted pretty well that it was dumb, but he will take the money they offered: > $GAS is not equity and does not give you any ownership interest in Gas Town or my work. This post is for informational purposes only and is not a solicitation or recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any token. Crypto markets are volatile and speculativ…

“Degenerate gamblers” is the kind of stigma that stops people and their families getting help for addiction. Even if you believe it’s a moral failing, the families deserve better.

Very true. Although, I wonder how much of that sort of thing was going on in this case? Did people actually bet money they couldn't afford to lose on this crazy scheme?

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Post by xyzsparetimexyz »

bdcravens wrote: post #68
mediaman wrote: post #46

I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment. It pushes and crosses boundaries, it is a mixture of technology and art, it is provocative. It takes stochastic neural nets and mashes them together in bizarre ways to see if anything coherent comes out the other end. And the reaction is a bunch of Very Serious Engineers who cross their arms and h…

> I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. Fear over what it means if it works.

Has it written anything of quality?

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Post by sailfast »

mediaman wrote: post #46

I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment. It pushes and crosses boundaries, it is a mixture of technology and art, it is provocative. It takes stochastic neural nets and mashes them together in bizarre ways to see if anything coherent comes out the other end. And the reaction is a bunch of Very Serious Engineers who cross their arms and h…

I didn't read this article as hate at all, FWIW. It was a pretty measured review of what it is and what it isn't with some much clearer diagrams of the mental models.

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Post by dingnuts »

pstuart wrote: post #166
an0malous wrote: post #124

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I agree, I’m one of the Very Serious Engineers and I liked Steve’s post when I thought it was sort of tongue in cheek but was horrified to come to the HN comments and LinkedIn comments proclaiming Gastown as the future of engineering. There absolutely is a large contingent of engineers who believe this, and it has a real world impact on my job if my bosses think you can just throw a dozen AI agents at our product roa…

AI is such a fun topic -- the hype makes it easy to loath, but as a coder working with Claude I think it's an awesome tool. Gastown looks like a viable avenue for some app development. One of the most interesting things I've noticed about AI development is that it forces one to articulate desired and prohibited behaviors -- a spec becomes a true driving force. Yegge's posts are always hyperbolic and he consistently p…

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Post by direwolf20 »

kaydub wrote: post #253
lknuth wrote: post #248

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Best performing by what metric? There aren't meaningful ways to measure engineer "performance" that makes them comparable as far as I know.

Your org doesn't track engineering impact? What about git stats? I can tell you the guys that are consistently pushing code AND having the biggest impact are using LLM tools.

Are we measuring productivity by lines of code again? This was treated as unserious for decades.

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Post by gavin-1 »

skybrian wrote: post #242
ludicity wrote: post #226

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I thought it was harmless(ish) fun, but David Gerard put out a post stating that Yegge used Gas Town to push out a crypto project that rug pulled his supporters, while he personally walked away with something between $50K to $100K from memory. I suppose that has little to do with the technical merits of the work, but it's such a bad look, and it makes everyone boosting this stuff seem exactly as dysregulated/unwise a…

That was very weird. In the post where he was arguably "shilling," he seems to have signposted pretty well that it was dumb, but he will take the money they offered: > $GAS is not equity and does not give you any ownership interest in Gas Town or my work. This post is for informational purposes only and is not a solicitation or recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any token. Crypto markets are volatile and speculativ…

> I think he's not very much to blame for taking the money from degenerate gamblers, and the cryptocurrency idiots are mostly to blame for their own mistakes.

I empathize with the disdain for crypto idiots, but I still think the people running or promoting these scams deserve most of the blame. "There's a market for my poison" is every dopamine dealer's excuse.

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Post by draw_down »

cannonpr wrote: post #270
skybrian wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was very weird. In the post where he was arguably "shilling," he seems to have signposted pretty well that it was dumb, but he will take the money they offered: > $GAS is not equity and does not give you any ownership interest in Gas Town or my work. This post is for informational purposes only and is not a solicitation or recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any token. Crypto markets are volatile and speculativ…

“Degenerate gamblers” is the kind of stigma that stops people and their families getting help for addiction. Even if you believe it’s a moral failing, the families deserve better.

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Post by q3k »

mediaman wrote: post #46

I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment. It pushes and crosses boundaries, it is a mixture of technology and art, it is provocative. It takes stochastic neural nets and mashes them together in bizarre ways to see if anything coherent comes out the other end. And the reaction is a bunch of Very Serious Engineers who cross their arms and h…

It reads like the ramblings of a smart person experiencing a psychotic episode.
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