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When employees feel slighted, they work less

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Re: When employees feel slighted, they work less

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Birthdays are hardly confidential.

They should be unless you want to publish one of the things that too many (eg sites) regard as a reasonable secondary security verifier.

And health records, e.g. prescriptions, as well.

Re: When employees feel slighted, they work less

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Don't do that. High-performing teams maintain a ratio of approxima ~6:1 positive comments for every criticism. Systematic use of shame aligns with toxic leadership patterns that produce measurably negative outcomes. Public humiliation at work can compromise social connectedness, threaten an employee's sense of belongingness, and create adversarial environments where constructive measures become impossible. When emplo…

I was just talking about the criticism. There is plenty of affirmation, probably more than 6:1

Ok, you're probably fine, then.

Re: When employees feel slighted, they work less

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post #22

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Birthdays are hardly confidential.

They should be unless you want to publish one of the things that too many (eg sites) regard as a reasonable secondary security verifier.

Get a single speeding ticket in most jurisdictions in the U.S. and your birthdate is never confidential ever again.

Re: When employees feel slighted, they work less

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The relationship between owners and workers has always been extractive. The adversarial relationship is built in. That doesn’t mean that you can’t have a good relationship with your employer, but there is always a conflict of interest, so to speak. I’ve had great relationships with my bosses, but they’re always under pressure to extract more work from the workers. In turn, their bosses are also pressured to do the sa…

Classifying a relationship as adversarial presumes a competitive context. I don't believe we are in competition with our employer but in a cooperative relationship, so we're talking game theory. A good employer cooperates with their employees to achieve business goals, a bad manager defects and prioritizes their personal goals/desires above the shared business goals. Your relationship falls out of this behavior (assu…

Isn't there competition for your own time? I'm thinking of crunches, or justifying a schedule despite workhour efficiency varying way too much (what are you going to achieve if you finish your last task at 16:40 on a Friday?)

Re: When employees feel slighted, they work less

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> You can train a human using the exact same skills you use to train a dog. Depending on the context, this can traumatize a human though. This idea has been the basis for both gay conversion therapy and applied behavior analysis. The latter I have had the misfortune to directly experience myself.

You don't think those same things traumatize the dog too? There's a reason why all reputable dog trainers advocate exclusively positive training methods. It's because training with exclusively positive feedback is not only most likely to get the behavior you want. It critically avoids destabilizing the dog. Negative reinforcement learning does works, but it also leads to anxiety, and "reactionary outbursts". i.e. the…

> Just like only abused humans attack their community.

Gonna have to pull you up here.

It’s estimated that approximately 1% of the general population is estimated to have high levels of psychopathy.

These people don’t need an excuse, and have no reason, to be dangerous.

Re: When employees feel slighted, they work less

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People are emotional and react in unexpected ways to even the smallest perceived slights, myself included. A late birthday recognition might not feel important, but if one already feels like management doesn't care about them? I can easily seeing that as a confirmation of it that causes resentment. I can also see it doing the same for any number of management related issues. I can tell you personally that the action…

> People are emotional and react in unexpected ways to even the smallest perceived slights, myself included Most people react quite predictably to slights. The issue is, if you don't have enough context, you might not understand you are slighting someone. I think the biggest problem in the workplace is that those higher up, or more successful in a company will put more stock in following the company rules/culture tha…

> when I asked to attend a funeral.

This is where you went wrong.

You don’t ask, you tell.

Whether they pay you for any additional bereavement leave beyond what is required is a different matter. They could agree to pay from accrued leave, or sick / personal leave, or unpaid time off.

Re: When employees feel slighted, they work less

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I’d take “slightly below average but is generally good to work with and tries hard” over “genius asshole” almost any day. Few projects require the latter. There’s also the problem with how useless so many are at their jobs with no way to be sure until its too late.

> I’d take “slightly below average but is generally good to work with and tries hard” over “genius asshole” almost any day. I'd take either before the utterly dangerous "below average hard-working asshole" which tend to quickly rise to managerial positions and cause untold damage with their ineptitude. "I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are…

Hehe, yes. The naive, but very hardworking developer is the most dangerous. He will dig you holes so deep nobody will ever find out if there is even any light in there.

Re: When employees feel slighted, they work less

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Yup. We just lost our "slightly below average" developers, but he was a nice guy and tries to deliver. But they have been slow to replace him, and now we are likely looking at 3 months before a new hire will just be in place, plus the new hire will not have the three years worth of experience the other guy had, so their project will likely be slower than at it already was for the rest of the year.

You're missing the person hours lost in hiring the new member.

... plus those hours!

Re: When employees feel slighted, they work less

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You don't think those same things traumatize the dog too? There's a reason why all reputable dog trainers advocate exclusively positive training methods. It's because training with exclusively positive feedback is not only most likely to get the behavior you want. It critically avoids destabilizing the dog. Negative reinforcement learning does works, but it also leads to anxiety, and "reactionary outbursts". i.e. the…

> Just like only abused humans attack their community. Gonna have to pull you up here. It’s estimated that approximately 1% of the general population is estimated to have high levels of psychopathy. These people don’t need an excuse, and have no reason, to be dangerous.

> It’s estimated that approximately 1% of the general population is estimated to have high levels of psychopathy.

> These people don’t need an excuse, and have no reason, to be dangerous.

Psycohpathy is defined as behaviors that conflict with pro-moral and pro-social norms. Are you trying to say that antisocial behavior is exclusively genetic, and isn't influenced by the environment? And if it is influenced by the environment, how does that conflict with what I said.

Or, more directly do you think that someone abandoned and abused by their caregivers as a child wouldn't test high on a psychopathy evaluation?

Also IIRC that 1.2% is just any clinically significant symptoms. Non-violent, pro-social, low empathy. Would still test high on that test.

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