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Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

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Re: Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

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I can't be the only person completely unconcerned about this state of affairs. They're ads. This is the most straightforward incentive structure in the world - they are paid to supply ads on behalf of other companies, and we consume those ads and are, in turn, provided with their product. I don't know why it is, but people are incapable of evaluating this exchange objectively - there's something inherently detestable…

Is this an ad for Zyns (whatever that is; I refuse to do a web search to find out)?

Re: Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

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I'd go further, with a ban on possession of the data, with a provision for statutory damages.

You can still derive a lot of info without having possession of the data through the use of PETs. There's a reason why companies like Google and Tik Tok make heavy use of PETs for their advertising products.

"PETs"?

Re: Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

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Kagi has recently moved to new offices in Belgrade. While I like their product we should not forget that serbia is not a free country, there has been massive corruption and russian influence. Even though there are massive protests from time to time, no leadership change has happened. I don't think the Kagi team has any bad intentions, and most likely they have attended the anti-Vucic protests as well. Moving back to…

> But Switzerland is a totally different country than serbia to operate it. CIA vs Putin. Not that different imho.

Your "humble opinion" is totally worthless because your are using false equivalence bias in order to minimize the atrocities and war crimes that putin has committed against Ukraine and the citizens of many other countries including his own.

Re: Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

#275

The title is actually The A in AGI stands for Ads Not Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

It was this title before, so it was intentionally changed; I wonder why.

I’m the author but not the poster. I didn’t change the title. Maybe the mods did?

The title came to me as an epiphany too haha, shame to see it get changed.

Re: Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

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If AGI was around the corner, they wouldn’t have to resort to what some consider a scummy way to make money. They’d would become the most valuable company on the planet, winning the whole game. Ads show you they don’t know what else to do but they desperately need money.

> consider a scummy way to make money. How should Chatgpt survive then?

Well, the obvious answer is none of these companies should.

Re: Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

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The title is actually The A in AGI stands for Ads Not Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

It was this title before, so it was intentionally changed; I wonder why.

Because the title of the post should match the title of the submission - unless the mods dislike it, then it'll be changed to something else.

Re: Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

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> In order to sell anything, people need to know about it. Google and Meta provide a way to make this possible. If they didn't exist, you wouldn't somehow have a more affordable way to get people to know about your product. However frustrating the current situation is, it is still more accessible than needing access to the airwaves or print media to try to sell anything new. The places people can find out about your…

but that’s not really true. You’re not paying, you’re bidding. You are competing against thousands of other advertisers for eyeballs. If you are the only advertiser targeting a group of people, you will spend almost nothing to advertise. If you are targeting a group of people that everyone targets (e.g: rich people in their 30s) you will pay through the nose. Facebook, Google etc. are the most “fair” forms of adverti…

Google has famously and repeatedly rigged this bidding system in anti-competitive ways and has had to pay billions in fines because of it (which I am sure were less than the amount they profited from)

Re: Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

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> In order to sell anything, people need to know about it. Google and Meta provide a way to make this possible. If they didn't exist, you wouldn't somehow have a more affordable way to get people to know about your product. However frustrating the current situation is, it is still more accessible than needing access to the airwaves or print media to try to sell anything new. The places people can find out about your…

but that’s not really true. You’re not paying, you’re bidding. You are competing against thousands of other advertisers for eyeballs. If you are the only advertiser targeting a group of people, you will spend almost nothing to advertise. If you are targeting a group of people that everyone targets (e.g: rich people in their 30s) you will pay through the nose. Facebook, Google etc. are the most “fair” forms of adverti…

No financial market would be able to run the way Google and Facebook run their ad markets. They are the supplier, the exchange, and the broker all at the same time. This is not a competitive market. It's a captured one where the supplier effectively gets to set their price, and the exchange and the broker incentivize and advise you to trade at that price.

Re: Predicting OpenAI's ad strategy

#280

"I kind of think of ads as like a last resort for us as a business model," - Sam Altman, October 2024

So we know then for sure they will do it. I don’t trust Altman to tell me the colour of the sky.

That's not the important point, it's that they are already at their last resort
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