Im currently in Vietnam. Regarding zoning laws it’s literally the wild west here. I don’t think it’s ideal, but it’s very interesting. For example it is flooded with cafes and some people would even open cafes in their home just for fun seemingly. One time I entered a seemingly busy cafe, but it turned out I was the only real customer and the rest were friends of the owner.
America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws
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Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws
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They never change their minds, that's because the police are willing to beat the protesters for them. The Civil Rights movement is an example of (mostly, but not always peaceful) protest that changed things within living memory. Gay rights advances in recent decades definitely owe a lot to demonstrations and public organizing that put the issues into public conversation. Women's suffrage movements also featured many…
Politicians are like ROM. You can't change them once they are programmed. If you want a different function, you need to swap them out. Yelling in the street is not going to get you anywhere. The reason Civil Rights, Gay Rights and so on got traction was not through protestors changing politicians' minds. It was through the masses changing their minds and actually going to the ballot boxes to replace their (essentiall…
That's demonstrably false. Politicians like Strom Thurmond and Joe Biden enjoyed long careers in the Senate after opposing the Civil Rights movement. Lindsey Graham opposes gay marriage today.
Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws
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Not true. Only when you move to a new municipality, or are out of the country for more than 8 months. Max fine is 325€. You can also go to city hall and give a temporary address. Sounds like you just don’t know Dutch law and options at all tbh.
> You can also go to city hall and give a temporary address. You can not. That is not how it works. Sounds like you just don’t know Dutch law and options at all tbh.
Yes you can. Briefadres.
https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/gemeenten/vraag-en-...
Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws
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failing to understand that the rent is too high because of zoning laws is lazy analysis.
if you are going to have a rebuttal, at least give a little bit why my take is lazy analysis. (and i'm aware your argument exists, and it's also wrong!)
* regulatory barriers to increasing supply lead to less supply
* less supply (at the same demand) leads to higher market clearing prices
really not complicated
Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws
#277Not convinced, plenty of countries (e.g. UK) don’t have such stringent don’t have strict zoning laws and also don’t have $4 food
>don’t have such stringent don’t have strict zoning laws I thought the planning process in UK is even more perilous because of the lack of zoning laws? Everything is up to council review, which basically means vibes based instead of something that's codified.
Mixed zoning might not be issue. But that still doesn't mean there is not limited zoning. Or massive over head in various regulations and documentation burdens.
Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws
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I don't disagree, but even a low overhead business is still going to be better than an empty storefront (since it means creating some business and employment than none) and a reasonable % of said vacant businesses will be turned into decent value for the community. It's something especially apparent because even the local mattress stores have closed and left said space vacant.
Ok, but you're not going to get a nifty $4 lunch bowl shop. The properties are held until Starbucks or H&R Block or whatever wants to expand. Maybe said tax makes the mattress store reopen with its one minimum wage cashier poking at their phone all day, but you won't get more than that. The investors are holding out for the big money. The business model works because when a buyer appears looking for numerous sites fo…
> Maybe said tax makes the mattress store reopen with its one minimum wage cashier poking at their phone all day, but you won't get more than that.
The landlord isn’t operating the store so why would they need to rent to a business with low operating costs.
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Somebody who spends 3-4 years in a place has an immense interest in how it's governed. Their view is 100% as valid as yours, and they should have equal voice, if we are going to judge people based on how long they live somewhere. I live in a college town. Why shouldn't student voices be represented, when they are a huge chunk of our community? Maybe I'm too US focused, and have been accused of that a lot recently, bu…
There's a massive difference between "will be in a place for 3-4 years maximum, then leaving" vs "has been in a place for 3-4 years but is planning on staying permanently." In the former case their interests are going to be short-term and might not align with long-term residences. Per your example, university students would vote against allocating funds toward schools or playgrounds, because they know they're not goi…
A city isn't just for the long-term residents. It must serve short term residents too. Those interests must be represented.
In the US, people get to vote where they live. We used to require silly things like owning land or being male or being white, but that was a really bad idea.
It is not debatable at all if short term residents should had the same voting rights as long term residents. It is very settled constitutional law in the US, and a completely radical idea to suggest changing a principle that has been fundamental for the period of time when the US has been a strong country.
> Per your example, university students would vote against allocating funds toward schools or playgrounds, because they know they're not going to be raising a family there
I think you have very bad intuitions here. In my college town, long term residents get upset that college students vote in favor of school funding, because the long term residents have kids that have already graduated and they don't want to pay for it anymore.
Shorter term residents have significant disadvantages in local politics, as local politics is largely a function of long term relationships and getting the word out on obscure elections where there's almost zero coverage of candidates, and for positions where few know what they do. Depriving short term residents of even using a vote is a huge perversion to the idea of democracy in the US.
Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws
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Somebody who spends 3-4 years in a place has an immense interest in how it's governed. Their view is 100% as valid as yours, and they should have equal voice, if we are going to judge people based on how long they live somewhere. I live in a college town. Why shouldn't student voices be represented, when they are a huge chunk of our community? Maybe I'm too US focused, and have been accused of that a lot recently, bu…
Because people do not vote "for local interests" but for "the interests they are carrying with them according to their believes", which are usually not on par with the interestes of the long-term-resident local community.
So what? Why does that matter on being able to vote? Shouldn't people bring their values to voting, isn't that the entire point?
Should we deny long term residents the right to vote becuase they aren't voting in the interests of short term residents? I don't understand the principle here, unless you think that short term residents are not residents, or full people, or something.