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How will the miracle happen today?

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Re: How will the miracle happen today?

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Sounds like someone who takes and does not give

Exactly. People taking advantage of other peoples' kindness systematically and at scale is the reason why people are less kind today.

yes. There are mafia&organized beggers and cheaters in every major tourist city. Someone looking for your pity $, but is actually faking it. especially gypsies

Re: How will the miracle happen today?

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I mean, it depends of course. Especially now that I have children, who depend on me. I do know, even with kids you can hitchhike, do work exchange, etc. but it is a whole different story than doing it on my own, so I would never claim I transcended above existential fears regarding money. But I do believe my base attitude is way more relaxed to always find a way somehow and that helps me a lot to not get a heart atta…

How do you "work exchange" doctor and medicine instantly if ur child gets really sick, and have 0$ and no insurance or free healthcare? having money, gives you more choises with each amount, the liberty.

Yeah, insurance is a good point.

Re: How will the miracle happen today?

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I see others expressing this point, but I'll add my two cents: this essay really bothered me. 1. The writer describes hitchhiking to work every day, presumably for months or years. He doesn't describe in any way how he paid back that kindness, either to the people he rode with directly, or just by paying it forward. 2. The writer describes traveling in Asia for 8 years, and many of the instances of kindness he descri…

Agreed, there are plenty of people across the world who are genuinely suffering and really need help. You should only survive on the generosity of others if it's your only option.

Re: How will the miracle happen today?

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He sounds like a “begpacker.” Reading this makes me think badly about the author. Taking from those less fortunate is horrible. If you are rich enough to travel to a poor country, please don’t exploit the people by taking more from them.

Imagine the good he could have done if he actually paid people back! He could've bought a cart of food for the family generous enough to share their last can of meat. He could have spotted a generous driver with a full tank of gas right at the end of the trip.

They also said they spent a total of $500 over a full year of traveling, I don't think those actions would be an option.

Re: How will the miracle happen today?

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Really nice article, but it sort of flies in the face of all our biological imperatives. Being a good "kindee" means forgoing security, control and some safety. Constant Gratitude for just the miracle of life means forgoing the driving dissatisfaction that will push you ahead. This is the classic battle between our ancient biological impulses and the reality of modern society. Many religions try to square these: Budd…

It is survival of the fittest gene A cooperating human race has been excellent for our survival.

If cooperation is a beneficial survival trait, it would have to be because helping others so they can continue creating value for the group is better for everyone than letting them die. At some point a reward system around helping weak members of the group was conditioned into us.

Viewed under that lens, the author and other travelers who live off the kindness of strangers are a kind of parasite, who exploit that reward system. They have no designs to contribute to the group once they are back on their feet, in fact they have made themselves intentionally helpless as a lifestyle.

Re: How will the miracle happen today?

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What's interesting about this post is that it would be completely unsurprising to most people in most parts of the world, as well as most people here 100 years ago. The discomfort so many people in this thread feel with receiving kindness and the devaluing of the gift of companionship, gratitude, and a good story is a testament to how far off human norms our society is these days. I struggle with this a lot myself -…

Is that really true? Would a black man be able to receive this type of kindness 100 years ago?

So, 1926? My feeling is: probably, from some white people. And, these areas had non-white people. The GP said Midwest, so we can think of the region roughly from Indiana to Nebraska, and North to the border. While there were "sundown towns" in those areas, where racists banded together to keep black people out of the town after dark, there were also people outside those towns with diverse beliefs and attitudes towards black people. In that region, the harshest laws regarding race were probably in Missouri. In any event, a black man was probably at greater risk than a white man of suffering an attack by a stranger, but I would expect there also would be people of all races willing to extend hospitality.

Re: How will the miracle happen today?

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Stories like this always feel a little bittersweet. It’s beautiful, but women would be in potential danger in situations like these. And I say that as someone who has spent years the world traveling alone and isn’t afraid of humanity and agrees that the kindness of people is one of the most precious and Hope-building things in the world.

I spent a while in the couchsurfing community. It was probably about as safe for women as having a job or being in a university. Now, I recognize that CS was more specific than seeking random acts of kindness on the daily, but a big part of what makes it work is that the vast majority of men aren't looking to assault women and will not stand for it, either.

I met a woman once, who was working as a waitress. She said she was a hobo before this job, but she had a daughter, and while she longs for the hobo life, she knows it's not right for a young kid.

Again, bad things happen, I am sure there are stories. If you expect to find a situation for women where there is no risk, best of luck to you.

Re: How will the miracle happen today?

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It is survival of the fittest gene A cooperating human race has been excellent for our survival.

If cooperation is a beneficial survival trait, it would have to be because helping others so they can continue creating value for the group is better for everyone than letting them die. At some point a reward system around helping weak members of the group was conditioned into us. Viewed under that lens, the author and other travelers who live off the kindness of strangers are a kind of parasite, who exploit that rew…

Yes. Maybe. Parasite in modern life but maybe useful in middle ages. They could deliver messages or warn of battles.

The emergent behaviour of humans given "stay alive and copy or die before you can copy" is mindboggling.

Re: How will the miracle happen today?

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I think if he is willing to be generous in other times and places as well, it can be a good learning experience. I know this is also how Jesus lives in the Gospels, and has his disciples do so at times as well. Of course he paid his way by healing the sick and raising the dead! And telling really good stories.

in contrast, Jesus also could turn water into wine and he has the most rich parents in a human history (can manifest anhthing) so was he taking advance of people like the writer?

You should read the comment you are replying to where I address this.
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