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2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by kumarvvr »

ksynwa wrote: post #142

For me the strange and unproductive direction Windows is going towards in encapsulated in the right-click menu in the file manager (Explorer). 11 has a shiny new menu that shows up when you right click. But it is a new coat of paint over the ones from 10 or before. Additional options from for example 7zip don't show up in it. You have to click "more options" at the bottom which them reveals the old menu. There is no…

God ! For a long time, the cut copy paste icons had no text !

I mean, c'mon MS, after so many years in the industry, surely you must know that having text below icons is how most users use the functions.

Heck, I am a seasoned developer, live and breathe computers and software. I too was confused at times with that.

Only recently did they add the text to the icons.

Also,

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/2287432/...

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by UpstairsEmpire »

Aurornis wrote: post #68

I did a clean install of Windows 11 when Windows 10 went EOL. From all of the complaints I was hearing from headlines I expected a disastrous experience. But to be honest, it’s been fine. I’m not a heavy user but I switch to the Windows PC at least once a day for a few hours of CAD, gaming, and one other engineering program that is Windows only. I don’t click any of the AI buttons. I declined the OneDrive or backup s…

I'm glad to hear you say this. Been using Windows 11 daily for a few years, and I don't really have huge issues with it.

- I've shut off the dumb, simplified right click menu. - StartAllBack solves my issues with the Start button and menu bar. - I've removed the weather, the ads, anything else dumb. - Other than that it's just... Windows. - EXCEPT I haven't had a screen of death... One time in years.

Been using Windows since 3.11, Mac OS since 6, and I just don't get the vitriol.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by doodlebugging »

ncr100 wrote: post #121
doodlebugging wrote: post #60

I am wrapping up my shift from Windows to Linux. I will have a linux box to replace my Win7Pro/Win10Pro install on an old Dell workstation. I will also be migrating one of my older relative's pc's to an identical linux box to replace their 2008 model ASUS machine running Win10. Once I have that all comfortably running I am walking away from iOS on the iPhone. I'm a bit tired of lock-in and in a position now where I h…

I wish you luck! Tangent: Containerizing one's digital life feels smart - isolating apps and data from exploitation and unhelpful constraints of the underlying systems seems to be more and more necessary. E.g. can't launch my video-conferencing camera on Windows because the camera provider has a conflict with my recent OS updates. I do not want to pay money / attention / energy into the lagging software maintenance o…

Thanks. I sympathize with you here and hope to rid myself of all the subscription-based horseshit in favor of things I already own or those that I can easily compartmentalize. The hardest part of regaining control is getting everyone else close to you on board since some may actively use the things that regularly extract but never provide real value for the "service".

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by inetknght »

pcblues wrote: post #49

I haven't had a _terrible_ UI experience with Win 11 that Apple hasn't put me through already. But it took away my sideways toolbar. I don't click anything that loads edge, like "Show me more from the web" type links. So I don't see ads. I use firefox and thunderbird. The telemetry all the way through the operating system sucks ethically. But I'm invested and familiar with Windows and Office. Not being able to make C…

> However, all my games and software that work on Windows won't necessarily work on linux

Unless you specifically know what won't work: there's a solid chance that your games and software will work just fine on Linux.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by doodlebugging »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #269
doodlebugging wrote: post #60

I am wrapping up my shift from Windows to Linux. I will have a linux box to replace my Win7Pro/Win10Pro install on an old Dell workstation. I will also be migrating one of my older relative's pc's to an identical linux box to replace their 2008 model ASUS machine running Win10. Once I have that all comfortably running I am walking away from iOS on the iPhone. I'm a bit tired of lock-in and in a position now where I h…

>Win7Pro I have multiple systems set up, but my second-favorite is still my Win7Pro Core2Duo with 4GB RAM. It sits next to one of my typewriters, and still handles official/govt/tax forms quite well. It is my only machine that I allow access to Google services, all others being heavily PiHoled. But this year I did finally convert an older dual core Xeon into a Linux-only box, which runs local Ollama quite well for pr…

I am on my last smart phone now. I almost "upgraded" to a flip phone when I got this one but I decided at the last minute to keep an iphone so that I could get regular photo updates from the kids. I don't see this as important any more. Real cameras take better photos.

Funny enough, my workstation here that I am ditching is a 2006 Xeon dual core with 32 - 8 GB of RAM and a nice NVidia GPU (can't remember which one). The "-8" is because a couple of RAM slots are dead, LOL. It has three dead caps that I can see but still boots if you're extremely patient and lucky. The main HD also has some boot sector issues that nearly prevent a Win7Pro boot but with the right combo of disk repair tools I can boot on the 10th or 12th attempt. That's the main reason I am moving on. I have a brand new NZXT machine with PopOS that I bought several years ago that is just sitting here waiting for someone to power it up and I bought a high spec mini-pc to see what that world offers.

I ditched MSFT stock a few years ago in favor of AMD. That's worked out pretty good so far. I'm no fan of AI. I'm sure there's a legitimate use case but today most of the players seem to be on a cash grab and I hate thieves and liars so I have a natural disinclination to support that shit.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by lostmsu »

coldtea wrote: post #262
lostmsu wrote: post #122

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Yes, but it happened before ChatGPT. Windows 11 was released in 2021, already with shitty taskbar, search, and start menu.

Yes, but those were bad by choice. Whereas the parent alluded to bugs just been piling gratuitously.

I didn't mean poor design, I meant literal bugs. Start menu search still fails to find things on my desktop, and done so since Win 11. Thank God for Everything.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by xethos »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #224
p_ing wrote: post #191

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Of course they do. It's all the telemetry that some people complain about.

I wonder how much overlap there is between people who disable telemetry and people who use the right mouse button in Explorer.

Without knowing exactly how far the common "debloat" Windows tools go, which every computer-toucher seems to recommend, I'd assume the overlap between "Users that disable, intentionally or otherwise, telemetry" and "Users that use 'Right-click -> More Options'" isn't quite a circle - but it is approaching one

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by LTL_FTC »

usefulcat wrote: post #245
bigyabai wrote: post #24

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Here's hoping that Apple can correct-course from this path. Last time I daily-drove macOS (Sequoia) it was pushing adverts in my face with every native app I launched.

What specific apps are showing ads?

Well, if you buy a new device and don’t enroll in AppleCare, you have a little red notification in the settings. I have two notifications currently that I cannot get rid of until the 60 window expires. I would consider this an ad.

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

doodlebugging wrote: post #275
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Win7Pro I have multiple systems set up, but my second-favorite is still my Win7Pro Core2Duo with 4GB RAM. It sits next to one of my typewriters, and still handles official/govt/tax forms quite well. It is my only machine that I allow access to Google services, all others being heavily PiHoled. But this year I did finally convert an older dual core Xeon into a Linux-only box, which runs local Ollama quite well for pr…

I am on my last smart phone now. I almost "upgraded" to a flip phone when I got this one but I decided at the last minute to keep an iphone so that I could get regular photo updates from the kids. I don't see this as important any more. Real cameras take better photos. Funny enough, my workstation here that I am ditching is a 2006 Xeon dual core with 32 - 8 GB of RAM and a nice NVidia GPU (can't remember which one).…

>I ditched MSFT stock a few years ago in favor of AMD

I bought equal amounts of MSFT and AMD, about four years ago. Haven't touched any of the AMD, yet... and was thinking maybe I should sell it all (also don't like AI-integrated things, fellow Old Man)... but now that GPUs are getting even more expensive I haven't sold, yet. Until a few months ago, AMD had been break-even for my then-three-years of holding.

>I am ditching is a 2006 Xeon dual core

Mine is a 2009 (24GB RAM), and is figuratively held together with patches & glue. Also very stable after boot-up, but boots are becoming 50/50. With a VEGA64 GPU, this thing can easily pull 600W+ (idles @160W, compared to Apple Silicon @15W~).

I migrated off of Xeons (as my main machine) Jan 2023, when Apple released their M2Pro "Silicon" mini models. I also got a 15" M3 Macbook Air. Both machines make great internet browsers. I hate modern macOS, but it is usable when you block apple/icloud (entirely), at the host level. No update nags, no cloud storage BS, no problems.

>my first pc was a 128k MAC

Mine was a 68k Quadra 605 (which I also still have). The day I got 10mb ethernet was a BIG deal (upgrade from localTalk/dialup).

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All my serious writing/paperwork happens offline, on quite antiquated equipment (oldest being my Smith Corona c~1946). For copyediting, I still love my 24" iMac Core2Duo — it IS literally held together with tape.

Very happily awaiting the return of in-person meetups, as generative AI video begins encouraging such authentic connection(s).

Re: 2025 was a disaster for Windows 11

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Post by SirMaster »

debugnik wrote: post #239
SirMaster wrote: post #215

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Well they have official extended update options, so it's still officially supported?

Aren't those only free for European customers?

Do they have to be free to be official support?

You get at least 1 year if you log in with your Microsoft account.

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