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Re: Maybe the default settings are too high

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Post by teiferer »

UltraSane wrote: post #46
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #27

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Noooo. Audio books feed you the content at someone else’s pace, not at your (slow) pace, which is exactly what TFA advocates. Or, what are you going to do? Hit Pause after each sentence so you can fully digest and savor it?

Audible and most audiobook player apps let you control the speed. I usually listen at 1.25 to 1.5

That's the exact opposite of what the article is about. The desire to time optimize, to rush it cause "this is sooo sloooow, booooring" is what creates only an illusion of time efficiency but you might discover that if you actually give it the time, there is a whole world to discover. That's what the article is about.

Re: Maybe the default settings are too high

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Post by xboxnolifes »

nemo1618 wrote: post #85
dsubburam wrote: post #18

Music is an interesting case. You can't slow down the consumption of music (you have to let it play at the speed the performer intended), but you can dial up the attention you give it. Listening with headphones, eyes closed, and phone+doorbell etc. switched off would be close to max. Sitting at a live concert (I am thinking classical) is up there too, because you've given yourself permission to not think of/work on a…

You certainly do not need to play music at the speed the performer intended! There are whole genres (and subgenres) based on this. :) Personally, I have found that slowing a familiar piece down by ~5% tricks my brain into perceiving it as novel again, which helps me attend to it more closely and appreciate it more.

Them being entire genres, to me, implies they are no longer the same music. You are listening to a different song.

Re: Maybe the default settings are too high

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Post by bee_rider »

nerdsniper wrote: post #139
teekert wrote: post #122

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I guess the term "tent" is pretty broad, this is what I see: [0], the cotton does not take being in water very well. But I guess a synthetic ultra light tent will do better. I also assumed the tents were already there when he arrived (complete assumption, but the term campsite conjures up a place with tents already there), and so must be of the more heavy more stationary kind. Anyway, the point is, I also had this qu…

A “campsite” is a relatively flat and relatively root/stump-free patch of dirt. That’s it. Also tents are generally not made out of the canvas material you linked that yurts and teepees might be made from. Tents are generally made of a very wuick-drying, thin synthetic. And like the other person said, this does make it seem like you’ve potentially never been camping but i don’t want to gatekeep the definition of “cam…

Have you tried hammock camping? I only tried it at a campground, so, maybe there are some downsides I missed for the real backpackers. But it was pretty cool to not care about roots, the flatness of my patch of ground, or anything like that.

Re: Maybe the default settings are too high

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Post by Zacharias030 »

Skimmed through it; mostly reading the paragraphs above each picture. The irony of which is not lost on me :)

Really enjoyed the part talking about Tolkien. It reminds me of my own LOTR experience: I finished the trilogy in three consecutive summers in the hilly countryside of Italy near Rome. The first summer I made it through the fellowship of the ring with a lot of patience and trying for the slower moving parts. The summer after that I started over and read book 1 and 2, and in year three I felt I was finally in sync with the pace of the book and enjoyed reading through book 1, 2, and 3 in a few weeks.

Re: Maybe the default settings are too high

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Post by scott_w »

jibal wrote: post #206
scott_w wrote: post #145

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I think you’re viewing this through your own cultural lens where camping can be totally solo (in the woods?) In England, we can’t just pitch up a tent in the woods, we need to pay for a campsite where there’s other tents. I suspect, from their description, this person is from a different country again, where camping may happen in large open steppe with lots of other yurts.

Nothing you wrote contradicts anything I said about camping. Someone else suggested that "campsite" just means the area covered by a tent and its groundcover, which is closer to the "mental image" of the other person who wrongly believes that tents got waterlogged, but is the arch opposite of yours. I've camped in the woods, on open steppes, and in designated camping areas in French and English towns. In each of thos…

I’m not trying to dispute your version of events. I’m just offering a suggestion of what teekert had in their mind when they thought of a campsite, to better help you see where the misunderstanding comes from. Given they replied with agreement, I hope I captured it accurately.

I also feel it was unnecessary to dismiss their experience as “not camping,” just because it was different to yours. It turns a learning opportunity for us all into a needlessly toxic argument.

Re: Maybe the default settings are too high

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Post by Tade0 »

macNchz wrote: post #107
irishcoffee wrote: post #14

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My spouse and I dealt with this on our honeymoon. We were both working 50-80 hour weeks for months leading up to our trip. The first day we got to this all-inclusive resort we spent the whole time trying to min/max and be as efficient and calculated as possible. It was a stressful, miserable day. Day two we looked at each other, had an adult beverage with breakfast, and relaxed for the rest of the trip.

Growing up in a quaint rural town where high-powered people from NYC liked to "get away", this is very common situation, and the inability to disconnect and adopt a slower attitude was, IMO, the primary cause of friction between the weekenders and the locals. They would physically get away from the city, but were unable to mentally release the blend of Type-A competitive neuroses that helped them get ahead in the cit…

I've settled in a city 60% smaller than the one I grew up in. It's still a full-blown city, but there's way fewer of those competitive types - they all moved to where I came from.

Re: Maybe the default settings are too high

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Post by crazygringo »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #215
crazygringo wrote: post #38

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The article literally says: > limiting myself to mouth-speed Audiobooks are mouth-speed. The article suggests this is the right slow speed, at least for the author. Maybe you yourself want even slower, but that's not what the article is suggesting.

Audiobook are mouth speed but have no pause. When reading slowly, I often want to pause a few seconds and think about what I just read before moving on to the next sentence.

I pause audiobooks all the time by squeezing the base of my earbud, or pressing the big pause button on my Bluetooth speaker. Works great. As well as the triple-tap to go back 15 seconds to hear something again.

Re: Maybe the default settings are too high

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Post by UltraSane »

bigiain wrote: post #76
UltraSane wrote: post #46

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Audible and most audiobook player apps let you control the speed. I usually listen at 1.25 to 1.5

That to me, feels opposite the the article's advice. And I too, often watch youtube at 1.5x or 2x speed, and dislike audiobooks because I read so much faster that I can possibly listen to them, and there's always an ever growing list/pile of books I want to read after this one. I wonder if that's why a certain type of movie works so well for me - I think of them as "movies made from short stories, not novels", and no…

Audiobooks are awesome because I can listen to them while doing other things like walking or biking or lifting weights. And the best narrators actually improve the books like The Hail Mary Project and Blood Meridian.
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