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iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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I responded to all the points. What's unclear?

So Ford and Tesla are monopolies?

If you buy a physical device from them and they control what you can install on it, yes.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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If they are not playing with local laws, then yes.

What if the local laws are bad? I think it would be good to disobey Turkey's law that requires removal of posts criticizing the current leadership.

Agreed, but with many privacy and freedom laws I would agree. I don't think they take it nearly far enough; If I buy hardware, it is mine, and they should open up the means to put whatever on it I want. No one has the balls for that I guess but I would want them to enforce that.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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So this tap to pair won’t work in the US? The side loading stuff I can understand to restrict to the EU, but this just seems like a nice feature for everyone

Not only isn’t this or any other of the DMA features accessible in the USA, but Norway which is a member of the EEC and which therefore both have to and is in the process of ratifying the DMA. Don’t get this either.

That Apple is so petty that it blocks on legal technicalities like that, when everyone knows it is just a matter of time. Really sours me on the whole company.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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On the other hand, there’s been a bug open to make a simple harmless change to fix this in Android for 9 months, with no response from Google other than asking for reproduction steps as far as I can tell. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/371713238 Some comments on the bug accuse Google of intentionally not fixing it to make people buy Pixel Buds instead of AirPods. I wouldn’t say that myself, but then again I a…

No one has presented a remotely correct fix anywhere on that issue, or elsewhere to my knowledge. You're welcome to write an actually correct patch for android if you want, one that isn't just commenting out code and probably breaking some spec-compliant bluetooth devices. Make sure to test your patch against all the bluetooth devices in existence to make sure it doesn't regress. Do that, make a PR, wait the average…

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/371713238#comment829 seems fine and only has the potential to break other Apple BT hardware, which is relatively easy to test.

Nobody actually productively commenting in the thread thinks it's a conspiracy theory and everyone acknowledges that the Apple hardware is off-spec. It would be nice to see Android add this workaround.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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> If Apple knew they would need to expand this feature past their gear, possible they’d never have implemented. And this is EXACTLY why they need to open up more core access to their devices. So someone else can innovate.

Why they need to be forced to, you mean? I'm not seeing an incentive structure for them to change being the only source of good workflows for their users - it's their whole thing "It just works" - regardless of if it's true in practice or not.

If you want the "it just works" experience, you can still buy the Apple products though, that's not changing. You just also have the option to not do so.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Of course not, that's the whole point of having a separate corp phone ;) But why would switching headphone connections need the cloud... ah... nevermind...

It doesn’t need “the cloud” (switching works offline) but it does need to verify that the device it’s switching to belongs to you, which it does using a keypair associated with your account.

Didn't I previously prove this by completing the pairing process anyway?

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Apple can't perform well with audio on Apple Silicon, either. In 2025 macos is the only OS with audio cracking appearing with CPU load. Even Linux is better

Yeah, this is a regression since macOS Tahoe. Amazing that it still exists after several patch releases, is audio working not a basic test case for Apple? I’ve found it to be worst when using Xcode / simulator and having headphones on for music. sudo killall coreaudiod seems to fix it for a while.

I've had it since the first macOS that shipped with my M1 Pro MacBook!

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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EU regulations strangle corporate innovation there

And another one parroting this without talking to EU founders.

I mean, they're not entirely wrong, but it's actually the lack of a capital markets union that causes the issues here.

So in fact, this is a case where the answer is more EU (specifically, a better set of cross-country capital markets). Depressingly, the obvious place to build this is no longer in the EU.

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And another one parroting this without talking to EU founders.

I mean, they're not entirely wrong, but it's actually the lack of a capital markets union that causes the issues here. So in fact, this is a case where the answer is more EU (specifically, a better set of cross-country capital markets). Depressingly, the obvious place to build this is no longer in the EU.

They're wrong in everything but a meaningless "well technically" sense. People spouting "EU regulations strangle business" nonsense are never talking about the lack of capital markets union. Let alone in a thread about "iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA".

> So in fact, this is a case where the answer is more EU (specifically, a better set of cross-country capital markets).

Can you give me a set of non-EU countries with better cross-country capital markets, that are as such now instead the place to build this? Especially for a set size bigger than 3? Serious question, as I've never heard of one and am fairly sure it doesn't exist, though I'd love to be proven wrong.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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> You can have a reasonable requirement where Apple should not be able to block other companies from providing similar services based on an iphone. This is what the requirement is. The EU isn’t demanding that Apple provide the same experience for 3rd Party and 1st Party products. It only requires that Apple allow 3rd Parties access to the same capabilities as 1st Party products, so 3rd Parties could build 1st Party q…

> This is the only point of discussion here. Because all the EU requires is that Apple open up their internal protocols so others can implement them. Apple supports Bluetooth just like Android phones do and does not degrade that. A fair way of dealing with this is to ask Apple to license its technology to third parties, not be forced to give it away for free.

We’re talking about a UI interface here. How exactly would you ask Apple to “license its technology” there? Apple needs tell people how to trigger that interface, and Apple needs to support 3rd parties trigging that interface.

Apple could “license its technology”, but what use would that be. Having other phone manufacturers implement the same UI doesn’t change the market distorting effects of the iPhone.

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