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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Very interesting that a white noise track for babies is the 4th most popular track on Spotify.

I find it so odd that people then to streaming services for stuff like this. I have a dedicated white noise machine, and when I travel, I use the white noise (bright noise actually) built into the iPhone.

Relying on an external hosted service would never cross my mind, and surely wouldn’t be something I go to on a daily basis.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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post #208

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> Infra isn’t free. There is a certain irony in people providing copyrighted works for free justifying profiting from these copyrights on the basis that providing the works to others isn’t free.

Cost recovery isn’t profit. Copyright is just a shared delusion, like most laws. They’re just bits on a disk we’re told are special for ~100 years (or whatever the copyright lockup length is in your jurisdiction), after which they’re no longer special (having entered the public domain). I think what is more ironic is we somehow were comfortable being collectively conditioned (manufactured consent?) with the idea that…

It's not the bits that are copyrighted, it's the performance and the creative work.

Your savings account is just bits on a disk, yet presumably it represents value that you worked for and which belongs to you to do with what you wish.

Re: Backing up Spotify

#273

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That made me chuckle, Enterprise Level Access. I mean as ai company, that’s incredibly cheap and instead of torrenting something, why get it. That price is just a fraction of a engineers salary.

But then you have a money trail connecting the company unambiguously to copyright violations on a scale that is arguably larger than Napster.

I mean Facebook and Anthropic both torrented LibGen in its entirety.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Not that we should, but it's technically feasible to have a music streaming server with the torrent as the backend, and selectively download the part of the torrent in respond to on-demand streaming request from the client.

spotify used to do just that (stream p2p) until 2014 or so https://www.scribd.com/document/56651812/kreitz-spotify-kth1...

The person who wrote this Spotify p2p software also wrote uTorrent, which was bought by the company bittorrent after they struggled to make a C++ client on their own. The original bittorrent implimentation was in python, but they re-skinned uTorrent as bittorrent and shipped both for a few years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludvig_Strigeus

Re: Backing up Spotify

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post #269

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You have been able to buy DRM free digital music from all of the record labels since 2009 from Apple and other stores.

> DRM free digital music from all of the record labels Is this true? Can you show me where I can get DRM-free releases from Mountain Fever? Better yet, can you add that information here? https://pickipedia.xyz/wiki/DRM-free

Your link doesn’t work. But I assume you are talking about this label? I looked at the first artist and I found the artist’s music on iTunes. Everything that Apple sells on the iTunes Music Store has been DRM free AAC or ALAC (Apple lossless) since 2009.

https://mountainfever.com/colin-kathleen-ray/

While ALAC is an Apple proprietary format, it is DRM free and can be converted to FLAC using ffmeg. AAC is not an Apple format

Re: Backing up Spotify

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post #132

This is insane. I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. But this does seem like it will be a godsend for researche…

This leak will also be really useful to bad actors who will resell the music from this list without paying royalties to the artists.

I just started DJing and something I quickly noticed is how garbage Spotify's music sounds compared to FLACs I've purchased. The max bitrate is very low.

Re: Backing up Spotify

#278

This is insane. I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. But this does seem like it will be a godsend for researche…

Just cite facebook getting busted training its AI on torrents proven to contain unlicensed material lol

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Incredible. > A while ago, we discovered a way to scrape Spotify at scale. They wont and shouldn’t divulge the details, but I imagine that would be a fun read!

How they manage to transfer 300TB of data while remaining anonymous is also astonishing.

I would guess this can be hidden under normal music streaming activity? But one would need lots of proxies!

Re: Backing up Spotify

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They are too big to fail but they aren’t too big to have to pay out a huge settlement. Facebook annual revenue is about it twice that of the entire global recording industry. The strategy these companies took was probably correct but that calculation included the high risk of ultimately having to pay out down the line. Don’t mistake their current resistance to paying for an internal belief they never will have to.

> They are too big to fail but they aren’t too big to have to pay out a huge settlement. Facebook [...] I think it's pretty clear from history that they are too big to have to pay out a huge settlement. First, they never had to. There was never a "huge" settlement, nothing that actually did hurt. Second, the US don't do any kind of antitrust, and if a government outside the US tries to fine a US TooBigTech, the US wi…

Anthropic had to pay $1.5 billion recently so you're incorrect. I'm sure more of such cases will come up against big tech too.
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