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Coursera to combine with Udemy

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Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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Post by gustavopezzi »

swores wrote: post #220
gustavopezzi wrote: post #112

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I also started teaching on Udemy in 2019 and even though the number of students was high, I quickly noticed that income was low and most enrolled students did not even start the courses they purchased (let alone complete them). I also decided to invest time and money in my own website/school and that was probably the best decision I've ever made. Also, I'm not sure most people know that Udemy was never profitable up…

> "I also decided to invest time and money in my own website/school and that was probably the best decision I've ever made." Thanks for not jumping to self promotion, but I'm actually curious to see how you did it - would you mind sharing a link?

pikuma.com

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Post by someguyiguess »

brendoelfrendo wrote: post #256
blitz_skull wrote: post #236

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They got sued for not having subtitles… no thanks. I think I’ll blame the chucklefucks that thought, “Oh an opportunity for a quick buck” and resulted in everyone losing a valuable resource.

Yeah, and without subtitles, the course content is not accessible to the deaf and hard of hearing... which the law says it has to be. UC Berkeley decided not to make their content accessible, and when someone complained, they took it all apart rather than making a reasonable (and legally required) accommodation. I guess I don't see why I'd blame the person filing the lawsuit here. UC Berkeley could have just... put u…

The person could have volunteered to write the subtitles themselves or, if they were deaf, to hire someone or even ask someone to volunteer to write subtitles. Or any other number of solutions.

To jump immediately to litigation is aggressive and shows that their true motive was not to actually enable the production of courses with good subtitles.

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Post by Andrex »

ivape wrote: post #196
ghaff wrote: post #161

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Gym membership for many.

I think Fitness definitely caught on though. You could say it was a constant recurring self-promise some prior generations made, but our current generations are not lacking on a focus on fitness. Education is not too different. We’re not exactly a society that goes “Going to dig into an interesting course this weekend with the wife”, no, nowhere near that. Takes time, generations.

I'm starting to learn human history is people getting bored of something and then it takes a generation or two before it's exciting all over again.

Fashion, I suppose.

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Post by astrostl »

It's such an amazing business model:

- create a platform to host content others create

- get employees to ask for company-provided access

- almost none of these employees really use it

- collect subscription revenue indefinitely

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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Post by Andrex »

vunderba wrote: post #95
sharadov wrote: post #35

Both have garbage content at this point - Coursera was great when they launched, top quality material and university-level instruction. Now it's just bottom of the barrel scraps. YT has tons of quality instruction - hell nowadays I just ask an LLM to make me a course for whatever I wanna learn.

My biggest issue with Udemy courses is that it's not easy to vet the instructor. User ratings are unreliable since beginners aren't really in a position to evaluate a teacher's expertise. If Udemy's pitch were “Learn X as Taught by Notable People in the Field,” I would have signed up in a heartbeat. - 3D Graphics taught by Michael Abrash - Card Manipulation taught by Jeff McBride - Pianistic Ergonomics taught by Edna…

It's not hard to look at each profile, most will proudly shout their top credentials as visibly and often as possible. "1M Subscribers on YouTube!" vs. "I worked in this industry for 10 years" is a pretty easy call. How much of this process should be spoonfed? Active engagement is required at some point.

Udemy functions as open market with the associated pros and cons.

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Post by michaelcampbell »

andrewrn wrote: post #190

As a counterpoint to the negativity in here. I purchased one of Angela Yu's basic webdev courses a couple years back and it springboarded my coding ability. I left it rather quickly to just build random stuff I wanted, but still, it was the spark.

Same here; I've gotten a lot of utility from Udemy. Actually kind of got me a job (tbf, the manager I'd known for years and he'd've hired me regardless, but I was able to actually DO the job he wanted me to do basically day 0, even when he was willing to hire me and let me learn as I went).

There's some crap there; I've returned a couple courses not to my liking, but by and large I've been happy with them.

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Post by Andrex »

ghaff wrote: post #165
linhns wrote: post #136

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Masterclass is really a scam in my opinion. Who needs them to teach about generic stuff, when what we need is how to be good like them, that’s why we pay for the course

And you probably don't have the chops to write screenplays like Aaron Sorkin and almost certainly won't develop them from a video.

You're probably gonna need to chip a few blocks on your own before asking Michelangelo for pointers.

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Post by 3abiton »

torben-friis wrote: post #27

As someone who had to drop out of school in the 2008 crisis (family trouble), I owe a good chunk of my learning to the first era of online teaching. Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Everything that came after has been substantially worse. Work is gamified, teachers spend more time…

Shout outto MIT open courses, and Stanford online for pioneerig this.
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