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No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by nitwit005 »

koolala wrote: post #85
someothherguyy wrote: post #44

This feature can be easily disabled with policies: https://mozilla.github.io/policy-templates/#generativeai https://mozilla.github.io/policy-templates/#preferences https://searchfox.org/firefox-main/source/browser/app/profil... https://searchfox.org/firefox-main/source/modules/libpref/in...

Is it really in all 4 of those places? Just need to change it in the first two, right? I hate the new AI tab feature and wish they had a non-AI option.

They absolutely know people want that, and absolutely aren't going to add it.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by fsflover »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #235
Orygin wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just doom saying at this point.

Mozilla hasn't had the benefit of the doubt for quite a while here. This isn't just one small kerfuffle coming out of nowhere. They say trust takes a lifetime to build and seconds to break ". We're years into it at this point.

> Mozilla hasn't had the benefit of the doubt for quite a while here

In contrast to Google Chrome? This is just FUD. Ublock Origin is still working and will be working. Full customization is still there and isn't going away. All of that is unlike in Chrom(ium).

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by GTP »

fao_ wrote: post #255
GTP wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point here is that, while such a translation wouldn't be admissible in court, many of us already used machine translation to read some legal agreement in a language we don't know.

> many of us already used machine translation to read some legal agreement in a language we don't know. Have we? Most of us? Really? When?

I know I did for rent contracts and know other people that did the same. And I said many, not most.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by avazhi »

mikkupikku wrote: post #254
nottorp wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't you worried it will fuck up your comprehension skills? Reading or listening.

Not him, but no. I read a ton already. Using LLMs to summarize a document is a good way to find out if I should bother reading it myself, or if I should read something else.

Skimming and being able to quickly decide if something is worth actually reading is itself a valuable skill.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by giancarlostoro »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #177
zmmmmm wrote: post #171

I just want FireFox to focus on building an absolutely awesome plugin API that exposes as much power and flexibility as possible - with the best possible security sandbox and permissions model to go with it. Then everyone who wants AI can have it and those that don't .... don't.

I just want a browser that lets me easily install a good adblocker on all my operating systems. I don't care about their new toolbar or literally any other feature, because I will probably just disable it immediately anyway. But the nr 1 thing I use every day on every single site I visit is an adblocker. I'm always baffled when people complain about ads on mobile or something, because I literally haven't watched ads…

> I don't care about their new toolbar or literally any other feature

At some point Firefox added these gaps on the URL bar, every single time I install Firefox I have to go out of my way to delete the spacing, it drives me up a wall.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by mikkupikku »

avazhi wrote: post #276
mikkupikku wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not him, but no. I read a ton already. Using LLMs to summarize a document is a good way to find out if I should bother reading it myself, or if I should read something else.

Skimming and being able to quickly decide if something is worth actually reading is itself a valuable skill.

There's a limit to how fast I can feasibly skim, and LLMs definitely do it faster.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by someothherguyy »

koolala wrote: post #85
someothherguyy wrote: post #44

This feature can be easily disabled with policies: https://mozilla.github.io/policy-templates/#generativeai https://mozilla.github.io/policy-templates/#preferences https://searchfox.org/firefox-main/source/browser/app/profil... https://searchfox.org/firefox-main/source/modules/libpref/in...

Is it really in all 4 of those places? Just need to change it in the first two, right? I hate the new AI tab feature and wish they had a non-AI option.

You can disable the one option. I included links to the source code to show the level of preferences you can customize, and how it is processed.

Re: No AI* Here – A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter

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Post by someothherguyy »

beached_whale wrote: post #64
someothherguyy wrote: post #44

This feature can be easily disabled with policies: https://mozilla.github.io/policy-templates/#generativeai https://mozilla.github.io/policy-templates/#preferences https://searchfox.org/firefox-main/source/browser/app/profil... https://searchfox.org/firefox-main/source/modules/libpref/in...

Easy for who? 99% of people are not going/able to setup firefox policies.

More than 1% of humans can read and create a file on computer. Others know how to read and use a search engine, and way more can be instructed by a LLM on how to do so.

I would say it is nearly as easy as installing waterfox or some other privacy focused fork of Firefox.

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