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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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embedding-shape wrote: post #262
dragonwriter wrote: post #254

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The “lewd texting with LLM” will be a tool for writing actual pornography, and in workflows for image and video pornography, even if the image and video generation doesn’t happen on OpenAI’s platform (in fact, people are using ChatGPT and other major AI engines as tools in that already , but loosening the filters were facilitate that even more on OpenAI’s platform.) OpenAI knows that, and the people interested in tha…

> The “lewd texting with LLM” will be a tool for writing actual pornography Sure, but does that mean "OpenAI has indicated they're getting into porn"? A bit like saying W3C is getting into porn because the web is used for porn, together with other things. Even when I try to think of parent's comment in the most charitable way, I don't think that's what they meant. Personally I prefer if my tools stay as tools, and le…

> Sure, but does that mean "OpenAI has indicated they're getting into porn"?

Yes, it literally means they have indicated to the customer base that is looking into making porn.

It may not mean they have indicated it to some other audiences.

> A bit like saying W3C is getting into porn because the web is used for porn, together with other things.

No, its a bit like saying the W3C is getting into porn if the W3C had announced changes in the platform whose main market appeal was to people making porn, but announced it in a way that glossed over and minimized that.

If, on the other hand, the web had a steady state of being used for porn, you wouldn't say the W3C is getting into anything, you’d just say “the internet is for porn” (which has, of course, rather famously been said, and even sung.)

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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dragonwriter wrote: post #271
embedding-shape wrote: post #262

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> The “lewd texting with LLM” will be a tool for writing actual pornography Sure, but does that mean "OpenAI has indicated they're getting into porn"? A bit like saying W3C is getting into porn because the web is used for porn, together with other things. Even when I try to think of parent's comment in the most charitable way, I don't think that's what they meant. Personally I prefer if my tools stay as tools, and le…

> Sure, but does that mean "OpenAI has indicated they're getting into porn"? Yes, it literally means they have indicated to the customer base that is looking into making porn. It may not mean they have indicated it to some other audiences. > A bit like saying W3C is getting into porn because the web is used for porn, together with other things. No, its a bit like saying the W3C is getting into porn if the W3C had ann…

The initial claim was "OpenAI has indicated they're getting into porn", letting writers write the scripts, story-lines or dialogue for pornography does not mean OpenAI suddenly "does porn". In that case Google and Microsoft with their Docs and Office are also "getting into porn", which would be a ridiculous claim.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by lossolo »

zahlman wrote: post #222
jerf wrote: post #144

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"there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged" Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate. The other thing I'd point out is that people kind of seem to forget this, but it isn't a requirement that AI video be gene…

> Also Google "Elsagate" to see what sorts of things people would like to do with Disney characters. Or a YouTube search for Elsagate.... Elsagate shows the level of effort that people are willing to put into this (a strange combination of laziness, but extreme effort poured into enabling that laziness). I still wonder what motivates the people behind that sort of thing. It'd be easy to understand if it were just por…

There are people in this world who will do anything for money. They will destroy your children mentally if it makes them a single dollar, they will traumatize them and cause lasting damage. We have created a world in which these people have free access to our children.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by Octoth0rpe »

mnky9800n wrote: post #86
OldGreenYodaGPT wrote: post #19

The collapse in production costs from AI video is going to change the volume and quality of what gets made. We’re headed for a world where studios and small teams alike can produce work that would have required a Game of Thrones budget not long ago. The pipeline for high end series and films is about to get a lot bigger, and the pace of experimentation is going to jump

We are heading towards a world where during the moment a company wins a bid to serve you an ad and it actually serves you an ad it generates a custom ad made just for you that will have video, etc. that is most likely to get you to engage in whatever the ad is attempting you to engage in.

I wonder if the next gen ad blocking strategy will involve convincing ad generators that I respond _really_ well to plain text ads with a font color of #FEFEFE on a #FFFFFF background.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by staticautomatic »

CodingJeebus wrote: post #243
BowBun wrote: post #169

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I firmly disagree and think this shallow take dishonors a pretty great man. While not perfect, Disney gave us the bedrock of American children's culture which has been a soft tool for the US for generations. Not to mention technology and other advancements. I'm not a Disney nut, but the man was one-of-a-kind and an impressive industrialist who instilled a great culture of innovation and a deep love of children and pl…

> While not perfect Yep, Disney was also a leading producer of racist tropes and content during Jim Crow. Historical clips of Mickey Mouse characters putting on minstrel shows with blackface alongside other racist stereotypes like crows can easily be found online[0]. Not to mention Song of the South[1], a film Disney produced based on Uncle Remus stories following slaves who happily live on a Georgia plantation. Disn…

Don't forget the Native Americans in Peter Pan!

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by macintux »

jeffwask wrote: post #151
godzillabrennus wrote: post #89

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Disney is the same company as it was 20 years ago. In fact, it's the same company as it was 100 years ago. They only care about profit. They do just enough brand management to preserve the profit motive.

To be fair to Walt Disney, he cared about a lot beyond profit and believed in advancing technology and society in a way modern corporate leaders absolutely do not. He was no saint but he's a far cry from modern CEO's.

Walt grew up in an era when there was still a sense that wealth and power brought with it strong moral obligations to serve the community and nation. We lost that somewhere along the way.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by wat10000 »

caminante wrote: post #122
godzillabrennus wrote: post #89

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Disney is the same company as it was 20 years ago. In fact, it's the same company as it was 100 years ago. They only care about profit. They do just enough brand management to preserve the profit motive.

Amen. Blaming Disney for bad content is like blaming politicians. Who asked for the content? Who elected the politicians? ** [Jiminy] crickets**

We can acknowledge that people are terrible, while also wanting people not to cater to the lowest common denominator.
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