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Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Post by fsckboy »

Jordan-117 wrote: post #242
donw wrote: post #236

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I'd say changing something for vague aesthetic reasons is far more wasteful than doing so to make things more accessible. Compare the cost of installing a curb cut vs. filling it back in because you think a straight curb looks "stronger."

serif vs sans serif is not "a vague aesthetic reason", it's the most fundamental typeface choice you can make, moreso than monospace (which is an artifact of some 19th century technology) Rubio is an attorney, and there are many stylistic conventions in the legal and judicial space, why ruffle those feathers by flouting them? if you are given a style guide for your PhD thesis, do you follow it or do you futz endlessly with the fonts to show them what an independent thinker you are?

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Post by anonymars »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #215
pests wrote: post #44

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With all the fanfare made over Calibri back when it was announced, TIL about Aptos

I enjoyed the argument that this is going to open up a new time point for digital forensics. Many people have doctored documents pretending to have made them in the past. Except they did not realize that the vintage software used font X, but the modern default is now Y. There have been a few court cases where essentially someone is able to say, “This font is clearly Calibri which did not exist at the time this docume…

Example: https://valawyersweekly.com/2023/04/03/font-choice-exposes-f...

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Post by dsevil »

_vqpz wrote: post #263
shadowtree wrote: post #255

Good - Calibri is not open, badly supported on Linux et al. HN should rejoice in the US gov using a font that is open and truly cross platform.

Times New Roman is proprietary as well

I think there's clones of it that aren't.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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opo wrote: post #254
papercrane wrote: post #185

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The memo at the time said the serifs can cause OCR issues. https://x.com/John_Hudson/status/1615486871571935232

Just because they claimed it, doesn't make it true. OCR and screen reader software in 2023 did not have problems with serifs.

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Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Post by [deleted] »

actionfromafar wrote: post #224
ivanjermakov wrote: post #174

Times New Roman is extremely common and often the only accepted font for official documents and colloquial works in post-soviet countries: https://www.cnews.ru/news/top/2018-12-10_rossijskim_chinovni... . I have only bad memories of using it since I directly associate it with endless formatting fixes for my diploma and course works.

And bad keming. Though, that’s technically not a fault of the font itself.

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Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Post by gjvc »

Roboto Condensed's description reads like something written by wine journalist:

Roboto has a dual nature. It has a mechanical skeleton and the forms are largely geometric. At the same time, the font features friendly and open curves. While some grotesks distort their letterforms to force a rigid rhythm, Roboto doesn’t compromise, allowing letters to be settled into their natural width. This makes for a more natural reading rhythm more commonly found in humanist and serif types.

A Sancerre with a long, sweet finish.

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Post by Jailbird »

irishcoffee wrote: post #268
gerdesj wrote: post #250

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A font was the en_US version of fount. A fount was a particular example of a typeface. A typeface is something like TNR or Calibri. They all seem to have been munged into a single set of synonyms except for fount which has been dropped (so why do we still have colour and all that stuff)? A print, then typewriter, then computer typeface emulates a written script but also takes on a life of its own. Handwriting in engl…

I thought I was the only one that still crossed a seven and slashed a zero. I don’t dot an ‘O’ however.

I cross my sevens!

I'll consider starting to slash my zeros. Seems legit.

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